so i have more than 8 rounds within the last 12 months, have not played in a pdga event since BG ams this year and did not receive an updated rating this last go around. is there something i'm missing when i read the ratings guide? i figure the rounds from over 12 months ago should drop off.

Common mistake. The 12-month period is the 12 months prior to the date of YOUR most recently rated round, not the date of the update. It has nothing to do with time advancing. If you don't play any new rounds your rating remains the same forever along with your update date. Only way to drop old rounds is play new ones.

thanks

any chance the ratings are posted earlier than Tues?

^^^ I hope so, I get so anxious... Last update they were done early. I would guess they wont be this time though, with Worlds and all. :(

Maybe later on Monday instead of Tuesday.

Thanks for the early posting CK and all who helped.
I've brought this up before and thought I'd suggest it again for the "new" website. I'd like to see exactly which rounds were double rated in our ratings detail each update. Maybe with an asterisk or bold print. I'd think this wouldn't be too difficult of an added feature.

ANYONE know where to find the players stats on the new webpage?

I can't find ratings or tournament results anywhere.

Hippie,

on the website update thread Theo mentioned that it would be one of the next things to get placed on the website, but that it is not available as of yet.

if you do a google archive search you can find them, but it is exactly that, an archive. nothing new will be there.

I've been asked when ratings corrections following the September update would be done. We normally do them, if there are any, within a month after the regular update. Unfortunately, with all of the website problems and conversions, the corrections update has been skipped and will be completed as part of the regular ratings update still on schedule for November 25th. Timber Ridge (Virginia) is one of the corrections I'm aware of that will be fixed then.

Does it show anywhere on the website when the next ratings update is? I miss that from the old one, it always said it on the home page!? Just wonderin!

I made a suggestion to Gentry yesterday regarding a spot on the home page for showing the next date. So it's in the works. Nov 25th is next update.

I made a suggestion to Gentry yesterday regarding a spot on the home page for showing the next date. So it's in the works. Nov 25th is next update.



Any way you can bump that up to prior to teams? I know there are few contenders that will lose their INT players if the updates came out prior to then. :D:D:DJK.

Even if we bumped up the date by a week, there's an official 2-week grace period before you have to use your new rating if you register for an event in advance. ;)

The grace period is subject to the discretion of the TD. He doesn't have to honor it.

We can't check the Tour docs right now to confirm that. I think the TD has to state ahead of time in the flyer that the 2-week grace is not available and current ratings the day of event will be used. I think the grace is the default but not sure.

It's in the competition manual (which is available).

"2.2. Exceptions
A. Players are allowed to enter a ratings based division they would otherwise be ineligible to participate only under the following circumstances
(1) If approved before the event by the PDGA Tour Manager.
(2) Players who have become ineligible for a division due to a ratings update may participate for two weeks following the update, provided they are pre-registered for the event in question, at the discretion of the TD."

Oh, I would think the double secret rules in the tour docs would trump the secret rules in the competition manual. Therefore, the possibility that there may be tour docs with rules in them negates the entire competition manual!

I made a suggestion to Gentry yesterday regarding a spot on the home page for showing the next date. So it's in the works. Nov 25th is next update.


Chuck, what is the deadline for TD's to have their reports sent in so those rounds will be included in the Nov. 25th update? Is it being extended due to all the problems with uploading scores on the website, etc... thanks

We'll have to wait to confirm with Gentry but the usual deadline is Friday 11 days before the posting date of the new ratings which would be Friday, Nov 14th. If an event on the weekend of Nov 15-16 gets their report in before Monday morning the 17th, there's a chance it can still sneak in. TDs being able to post unofficial results online has no connection with turning in TD reports and processing official ratings.

I'm wondering more about if the results pages will ever function again. I'm going crazy over here, the results and member stats pages were the two things I looked forward to checking out the most on this site. Any clue as to what is going on? It's frustrating not being able to check results and know what is going on out there on the tournament scene.

Here's what Theo posted yesterday:

Quote:
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I noticed that we are still unable to upload tournament results or information to:

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/admin

Any thoughts on when this will be completed?

Thanks...


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I'm working on it today, but after I get the coding done, it will need testing and security review. Maybe late next week?

-Theo

Member Stats (http://www.pdga.com/player-stats?PDGANum=28536&year=2008)

: ) :

I agree Travis, it was always fun to follow self, and others play. Gonna be tough to re-new this year, kinda disappointed in the whole situation for the last 6 weeks. Maybe a rebate this year, even the magazine fell off the boat.

when is the new rating update?

ps, this site is no longer user friendly...

Nov 25th

thanks chuck...

Any expected delays on the update?

Nope.

So we have to wait until the 25th to see our round ratings from tournaments?

what is the deadline for the TD report to be included in the update?

I think the absolute deadline is the 17th.

Official deadline is 14th but Gentry may be able to slip it in if it gets there on Monday, the 17th for weekend events.

Will the USDGC be included with the next update? Thanks Chuck, keep warm.

I haven't seen the list of events to be processed yet but I'm pretty certain that will be in there along with over 200 other events.

so when is the next update? I did not see a date on the home page. I'm usually not so anxious but my last 2 events weren't included for whatever reasons. I'm hoping for a mid-Jan year-end wrap-up update.

If you click on the link in the Announcements on the Home page for the current 11/24/2008 update, it takes you to the text which says the next update is Jan 27th. This is the yearend final for 2008. I'm sure Dave will put the regular notice in the Announcements when he gets back.

I went through my rating to see what tournaments have been added which ones have dropped off and i found this one to be missing

9th Annual Cincinnati Flying Pig Open B Cincinnati / Fairfield, OH Sat-Sun, Aug 23-24, 2008

The rated rounds are on the site but none of the rounds have been added to any of the players rating as of the last update. just thought it was kind of odd due to the fact the tournament was in August

Does it say Unofficial or Official on the scores page? If Unofficial, it means the TD uploaded the results to the website but still hasn't sent in the report to the PDGA so we can't process it for you.

Chuck,

Can you post the proposed rating update dates for 2009?

Thanks

I can't post it yet because Gentry, Roger and I are still exchanging emails on possible dates that work with the big event schedule. I know we will be adding at least one more full update making at least 6 for 2009.

When you guys figure out the dates, will you post them on this thread for those of us that don't like to hunt? :D


Thanks

We'll do that here and hopefully find a more permanent location also.

Chuck, when will the 2008 Players Cup ratings be added to those that atteded? I've noticed that the money totals from the PC were added, why not the ratings? Shouldn't there be an update on 1/1/09 to close out the year?

Money and final scores are always posted either before or when official ratings are posted. The yearend update is planned for January 27th assuming we get all of the tardy results in time.

Well i missed the money by 1 stroke so there's nothing to add to my totals but the tournament is showing up on my list of events played.

The bigger question is:

Will the Players Cup stats get your rating back to 1000? :D

No way. Especially since there's a 937 VPO round being doubled. :confused: :D

When you guys figure out the dates, will you post them on this thread for those of us that don't like to hunt?


Here's the schedule we've worked out for Ratings Updates for 2009 events. We expect to see more than 1000 events this year so we've added two more full updates to the five per year we've been doing for quite a while. TD reports are due by the Thursday 12 days before these dates in order to make the update.

March 17 (includes Memorial)
May 19 (includes BG Ams)
July 14 (includes Am Nats)
Sept 1 (includes Worlds)
Oct 20 (includes Euro, Masters, USWDGC, USDGC)
Dec 15 (includes Players Cup)
Jan 26 (yearend final)

The yearend update is planned for January 27th assuming we get all of the tardy results in time.



Hmm...maybe that event I played in October will be in by then /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

That's great! I always thought there should be updates about every 2 months instead of 3. looks like there's 7 updates for the year, I think that helps keep the ratings more true to the player. I definitely am looking forward to the one in March, I thought it wasn't gonna be until the end of April. I guess now the main thing to help this work though is the TD's actually sending in the TD reports in a timely fashion. It seems like it's getting better and better as the years go by. Anyways I'm definitely digging the more rating updates for the year. Wahoo :P

when will the next update after 1/27 be?

Please read the schedule I just posted above.

or i could have written the date, pressing less keys.

Seems appropriate for a Sunday: "If you feed them a fish they eat but once. If you teach them to fish, they can eat forever." ;)

New ratings are posted.

Thanks Chuck. I was expecting the worst so to see a 1 pt improvement made my day. LOL. Only 15 more to go so i can remove that signature line for Gotcher! :D

More rating updates won't help that much so long as they continue to use data that is a year old. I'm not saying there is necessarily anything wrong with using data one-year old. I'm just saying if you play a lot of tournaments, like I do when I'm healthy, and you have 40 or 50 rounds over the last year, your rating moves rather sluggishly in response to what you've been doing recently.

This past fall I played some tournaments but did not have much practice time. My last eight tournaments are five points below my current rating but my rating went up 4 points. I practiced a lot before Worlds, and at Worlds I shot 19 points over my rating on average for 8 rounds, but my post-Worlds rating went up 1 point.

My ratings fluctuations tend to reflect more what is dropping off from just over a year ago than what I've done recently, when I'm healthy and getting in a lot of rounds. My rating is primed to go up 2 points with the spring update, not because I can foresee what I'll shoot this winter, but because I can see the 14 rounds that will drop off.

I think it works fine for me that ratings move a little sluggishly for active players. At 939 with 941 in my pocket, I can count on being Advanced for for all of 2009. I'm eligible for six divisions and am likely to play in all of them before the year is out. I can make plans for those split-weekend tournaments since I mostly play on Saturdays.

It might not work so fine for someone like My Hero. He has to get his game back and then play for a year before his recent spate of poopitude drops off. :D

what will be the cutoff date for tournies to be included in the March 17 update?

Since the typical established player around 940 rating has a standard deviation of 30 points, that means 2 out of 3 rounds will be within 30 points of their rating with 1 out of 6 more than 30 higher and 1 out of 6 lower. So, shooting a 2-round average of 970 is a regular occurrence, not surprising. The rating is just the point around which your round ratings hover whether you practice hard for Worlds or have off days when you're a little rusty.

what will be the cutoff date for tournies to be included in the March 17 update?


The cut-off is usually the Friday 11 days before the ratings posting date, so March 6 in this case. If there's ever an NT or major on the weekend of the cut-off date, it may also get in.

IGoat Path X-Tier Singles
Official Results:
Date Tier
06-Dec-200
I was wondering why this tourny rating was not given to me thanks for any answer Ronnie Wilson

x-tiers dont have ratings, normally.

seem like other receive rating

why was it an x-tier? if there were special conditions, team play, mulligans, etc.... the rounds cannot have an accurate rating.

Looks like a course coding issue. Did you play the same layout as the Pros or the Recreational division?

no special conditions

we play the same course as the pro did except one hole

ah, i see. only am2 doesnt have ratings. strange.

if the layout was different, there probably werent enough propagators with ratings in your division to give the rounds a rating.

If you played a different layout from all of the other divisions, then there weren't enough gators to create ratings.

if this is true, what a shame :mad:

This is a case where the Rec and Intermediate probably should have played the same layout. The TD report shows that Intermediate played their own layout both rounds. There are three players with ratings but only two are propagators. With two rounds on the same layout, that means the equivalent of four props, one less than needed to calculate ratings.

Even though the Rec also played their own layout for two rounds, the three players with ratings over 799 are props. So they get ratings since two rounds on the same layout with three props is the equivalent of 6 props which exceeds the 5 minimum needed.

I'll see if Roger can work out something where we can produce ratings for the Intermediates by reviewing the numbers when we do the correction update in a few weeks.

2008- Mission Accomplished!

2009 on the way.

I sure hope we can work something out, well thanks again Ronnie Wilson

I sure hope we can work something out, well thanks again Ronnie Wilson



You could also thank the Int guys who didn't show. :D

I sure hope we can work something out, well thanks again Ronnie Wilson



You could also thank the Int guys who didn't show. :D



Or the TD who had different layouts for each division. This is really a lack of foresight by the TD.

I sure hope we can work something out, well thanks again Ronnie Wilson



You could also thank the Int guys who didn't show. :D



Or the TD who had different layouts for each division. This is really a lack of foresight by the TD.



Yes. The TD should have seen it. However, the players should have seen it as well. I played in an event a couple of years ago and I could see Rec. had about 5 gators and a bunch of sub 800s and non PDGA players. I mentioned this to the TD and he was very thankful. Some of the players were likely buimmed as Rec had to play a hole or two ( I can't remember) that were more difficult. However, the rounds were rated. If you smell a problem let the TD know in a non-confrontational and helpful way and you will likely have done everybody a favor.

How does a rating go down a point without playing any rounds since the last ratings update. Other than the fact I am just not that good! lol

Are you sure there isn't an older event in your file that hadn't been reported yet and is there now? I know I had one in May that finally got reported that pulled me down 2 points and I haven't played any new ones since the November update. Second, it's possible there were corrections on some events already rated before that slightly shifted the ratings for those people.

i think its a bit much to assume that players know the ratings and pdga membership status of everyone else in their division. i think this one falls on the shoulders of the TD for making that division play one hole different than other divisions. if someone knew, then yes by all means speak up, but if you are making all the divisions play slightly different layouts, you have to be aware of these sort of hangups.

Are you sure there isn't an older event in your file that hadn't been reported yet and is there now? I know I had one in May that finally got reported that pulled me down 2 points and I haven't played any new ones since the November update. Second, it's possible there were corrections on some events already rated before that slightly shifted the ratings for those people.


My teeth are gnashing together. I was hoping that that event would stay out until a year was up and it'd never have to hit my rating ;) As it is... kept me from rising another point. Oh wells. lol.

I'm not sure Chuck, I think something is up - a guy I know has not played a rated event since 2006, but his rating went from 997 to 998 in this last update and I'm pretty sure no new tournaments have been added in during that time...

http://www.pdga.com/player-stats?PDGANum=18988

I'll ask Roger about it. It looks like he wasn't current during 2007 and 2008. His old rating of 997 was calculated under the process used back then which we've tweaked a bit. So using his same round ratings from 2005 and 2006 on his detail, the new calculation ended up one point higher. For example, double weighting the most recent 25% of rounds like we do now was not done when his old 997 rating was calculated.

What's going to happen now is the first time he plays a sanctioned event this year, the only rounds used in his next ratings update will be ones in 2009 since his old rounds are more than 2 years ago.

Can someone explain how almost every Intermediate player threw well above their average at the
Codorus Autumn Open (http://www.pdga.com/tournament-results?TournID=8272&year=2008&include_ratings=1)?

I know Intermediates played a different layout, and that seems to be reflected accurately. It was a late tournament so I would expect that peoples ratings would not have changed much since this tournament was reported.

I believe Advanced Masters, Intermediate, Intermediate Women, and Recreational played the same layout.

In the first round 19 of 23 players had a higher round rating than their average rating.

In the second round every player had a higher round rating than their average rating.

I just checked the report and I'm guessing the layouts were coded incorrectly by the TD. The TD showed four layouts but only used two of the four when assigining layouts for ratings. It looks like all amateurs got ratings as if they had played the same tees as the pros on both courses. I'm guessing they played the Am tees but that wasn't indicated. Thanks for the heads up since we're doing the final corrections for 2008.

That explains a bit.

AFAIK ... Open, Masters, Grandmasters, and Advanced played the same tees and courses. Advanced Masters, Intermediate, Intermediate Women, and Recreational played the opposite course for their rounds, but I do think they also played AM tees.

Please confirm with Jay.

It's already underway. Thanks again.

I have been out of the 'disc golf' loop for a bit. Is there a place on the new PDGA site I can find a link to player ratings and be able to sort by State/Division like the old site had? Sorry if this has been answered in other threads, I haven't found the time to look through every one yet.

It's not available in the regular menus yet:
www.pdga.com/player-ratings-search (http://www.pdga.com/player-ratings-search)

Chuck do you know if the 2009 Buckhorn open and 2009 Mooky's cup got submitted in time for this next update?
Thanks.

Neither made it.

Neither made it.



Do you know if the Lumberjack Open reported in time?

No Lumberjack

Why was Abominable Snowman II C Lombard, IL Sat, Feb 7, 2009 not included in the ratings update?

When is the next update?

17th, so I'm thinking tomorrow...

They are already up.

Why was Abominable Snowman II C Lombard, IL Sat, Feb 7, 2009 not included in the ratings update?


The TD is the one to ask when events are not in an update. If it's not in the update, the PDGA does not have a completed report. If we have it on time, it gets included.

Post deleted by blang

Rounds are excluded if it appears the round is lower than the normal range we would expect for each player based on the range of their round ratings being reviewed. Rounds excluded are more than 2.5 standard deviations below your rating average or more than 100 points lower whichever number is lower. Apparently, your newer rounds added and those older ones now more than year old that were dropped have produced a larger standard deviation than before. So that previously excluded round is now included. In essence, your play has become somewhat less consistent than before.

No round is ever permanently excluded until it becomes more than a year older than your most recently rated round. There are several players where rounds that were previously excluded are now included like yours. And the reverse can happen where a player has become a little more consistent and a round that was included before is now excluded.

Thanks for the explanation and apologies for deleting the question while you were typing the answer. I found the SD part and I was going to ask my question more specifically now that I have more knowledge.
Should I be using mean, median, or my player rating when calculating the SD?
Also, are dropped rounds always included in the SD calculation?

We calculate both your straight rating average/mean (no weighting) and your standard deviation excluding your lowest rated round so it doesn't artificially pull down either before we know whether it should be included or not.

I think I am almost there.

What happens if you have multiple rounds that would fall below the SD? Would only one be left off when calculating SD or would all be left out for the next calculation?

The final questions are I have heard some rounds are counted twice. Is this true?
If so, what causes them to be counted twice, and if so, is this what changes the mean average from the weighted average or is it something else?

Please refer to the Ratings docs: www.pdga.com/ratings (http://www.pdga.com/ratings) and the FAQ: www.pdga.com/faq (http://www.pdga.com/faq)
The answers are there.

Thanks Chuck.
I did not know of the doc but assumed if it was not already created, it might be quicker to create one than to answer my barrage of questions.

I don't mind answering one quick question time after time. But if it's more than that, the answers are usually in the docs which finally got back online a few weeks ago.

Great. If they are just now back online then that will be my excuse for not knowing about them.

After reading the Docs it seems that all my questions have been answered. I assume that most do not really care to know the exact details of the calculations but it interests me some what. Thanks for the help.

I'm glad they had the answers for you. We'll plan to add more questions to the FAQ when we get new ones that haven't been handled yet.

I was 956 before the update w/ 34 rounds used.
Played Wintertime Open AM's in Feb. and shot a 964,972,986, showed 37 rounds were included on the one today and just would have thought there would be a slight change higher? I've looked through the faq's but still don't quite have a grasp on it.
Thanks

You likely had some older rounds drop off that were at least rated as high as the new ones that get double weighted. So they offset each other.

this is a good time to post my yearly suggestion of adding an asterisk next to all double weighted rounds or bold print or something. Might remind people and you won't have to answer so many questions like that.

I wish it were that simple. I continue to patiently wait until all these cool improvements like your suggestion can be added. Unfortunately there are still higher IT priorities.

Chuck how come only one round was calculated for my rating on the Columbus Icebowl in COlumbus Ohio January 19th that I won? PDGA# 7968. How come the second round was not calculated? Man I would like to have that 1000 rated round counting.

http://www.pdga.com/tournament-results?TournID=8508&year=2009&include_ratings=1#O pen

I believe it's because mulligans could be purchased and used in round 2. So only round 1 could be officially rated.

No mulligans were used at the event. The round needs rated.... It was a PDGA C-tier not XC.
You guys need to contact Paul Jay, the TD.

I have the TD report that specifically says mulligans were used in the second round. You can contact the TD to confirm or have the TD contact Gentry if they were not.

are all the updates supposed to be done? Mine hasn't been updated. #33278

I have the TD report that specifically says mulligans were used in the second round. You can contact the TD to confirm or have the TD contact Gentry if they were not.



Mulligans were not used, it was scraped, at the last minute, it's an error I think I was there? I asked for Paul to call Gentry today. One would think that a almost 20 year veteran, and a former volunteer for the PDGA, that my word, well, would be good enough...

Why can't you pick up a phone and call Paul directly and take 2 minutes out of your day. His contact info is on the TD report in front of you right? Heck in the time it took you to post that message you could have called and fixed the problem..... Are we not all customers of the PDGA? a little customer service goes a long way, Just sayin.....

It wouldn't make any difference. I don't have the ratings files and cannot do the corrections. Gentry and Roger won't do them until a month or so after an update so there's no rush. Do you really think that a player, not the TD, posting on the message board is the proper way for tournament scoring and format corrections to be initiated and confirmed? I can't even make corrections in events I play in if I'm not the TD.

are all the updates supposed to be done? Mine hasn't been updated. #33278


Everyone's rating is always "updated" every update but your rating and date do not change if you don't have any new events in your rating.

are all the updates supposed to be done? Mine hasn't been updated. #33278


Everyone's rating is always "updated" every update but your rating and date do not change if you don't have any new events in your rating.



1 million, 1 hundred, and 1 times now. :p

Where's the FAQ link for you to just paste Chuck?
It would be so much easier. :D

We need to get Keith an FAQ also so you can just point to it after I do... ;)

You're on this board WAAAYYYY more than me, but it still amzes me how at EVERY ratings update we see the same 3 questions over and over - And now with more ratings updates and corrections we see it almost every month.

I'll think I'll just post your 3 answers Every Monday morning for a whole year, and we'll see if that will stop the same questions.:D

It wouldn't make any difference. I don't have the ratings files and cannot do the corrections. Gentry and Roger won't do them until a month or so after an update so there's no rush. Do you really think that a player, not the TD, posting on the message board is the proper way for tournament scoring and format corrections to be initiated and confirmed? I can't even make corrections in events I play in if I'm not the TD.



I'm not expecting you to post the ratings now, but instead of telling me to contact the TD on here, you could have looked into the situation a little further. Not to mention your answer comes across kinda rude. I was pointing out an issue, that's all I can do hoss. You can investigate. You might as well just delete this section if my bringing up an issue or asking a question is bothering you. Also maybe you should log out and let some one else field problems if it is such redundant task that you start being rude. I don't think anyone who is a volunteer for the PDGA has any right at all to be sarcastic on this board, you are representing the PDGA. You are supposed to be professional.

Keith I think I have known you for quite some time now, maybe you can let Chuck know that I have been here as long as he has. I was playing before Climo won his first worlds. I don't consider myself as just a "player" I have had a few years of service with the PDGA myself, I'm not a new AM, and at the very least my long term of membership maybe demands a bit more respect from him. And having a daughter with a CURRENT PDGA # who will not compete for another 8 years, my payment of 2 memberships now show my support for the PDGA. I have been a member of this board since it's inception. Again I can't believe I can come into an area of the PDGA messageboard and point out an issue and (since we are generalizing people today) a stat guy says I'm full of crap and I have to do the leg work. That is baffling.... maybe if my PDGA number is 37000, but it's in the 7000s. There's only roughly 2k people between him an I. Maybe this "player" should just quit paying his memberships if this is how I am going to be treated on a PDGA messageboard. In this economy I can find something else to spend that money on.

And to answer Chuck's arrogant question, Yes I feel it is perfectly acceptable for a "player" to initiate a scoring problem, or point it out. Are we not all players? If you are not, why are you here? I was trying to get the ball rolling so it can be corrected and it will be corrected as it is an error. Again I was there and placed pretty well.

Sorry Booty but here are my first two responses to your question that simply told you what the proper procedure was to resolve it with no "rudeness." Then you start cranking on me after I helped out. Sheesh. I would have posted the exact same thing whether you were a newb or Steady Ed reincarnated.

"I believe it's because mulligans could be purchased and used in round 2. So only round 1 could be officially rated."

"I have the TD report that specifically says mulligans were used in the second round. You can contact the TD to confirm or have the TD contact Gentry if they were not."

I started " cranking" on you after you asked if players should initiate dialogue on the PDGA messageboard about ratings, in the ratings section. Seriously? What is the section for? Why are 90% of your posts there? Again Yes it is acceptable for players to point out errors, because again we are all "players".

And yes your answer is rude, to tell me to contact to TD to show I am wrong, or call Gentry to make the correction. I'm the customer, part of my entry when I play goes to the PDGA, I pay a expensive membership fee every year. Why do I need to do leg work to correct errors? Do you not care? If not then maybe this system needs to go away. Our TD is a State coordinator, Club president, course installer, TD, Fundraiser, Sponsorship coordinator, and the list goes on. He has enough on his plate to worry about this. I came to the correct place to point out an issue. You are here daily.

I look forward to my second round being rated and counting in my rating as it deserves to be there.

Do you think the rest of the event players don't care that they are being cheated out of a round that maybe they want rated on?

I didn't start this thread on our messageboard:
http://columbusdiscgolf.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=90

Sorry but no error occurred. We rated what we were given officially to rate. No mistake was made that needed fixing. No ratings were wrong, PDGA numbers incorrect, scores incorrect. A player makes a claim that a mistake was made but our paperwork indicated it was not made. That puts the onus on the player to track it down to initiate a change and it doesn't matter who that is. If we had made a mistake, we would have fixed it even though this isn't the place to post them. But only the TD can indicate that their TD report had a mistake that needs fixing.

Booty, I explained the proper sequence to get it fixed and you just didn't like the answer and then get upset at the messenger. You want some veteran respect then you turn around and don't respect the process set up to make sure corrections get processed properly. Better contact the TD if you want to have him contact the PDGA to correct it.

I didn't start this thread on our messageboard:
http://columbusdiscgolf.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=90


Thanks for your last post on this Columbus thread. That's all you needed to do.

Keith I think I have known you for quite some time now, maybe you can let Chuck know that I have been here as long as he has.



Chuck, I first met Ben in Cincinnati in 1998 and he was already a great player with a cannon for an arm and he taught me some things, and gave me an XS that I still have to this day with his name and number in it.


Ben, I know Chuck has to answer the same questions over and over so much that his heart needed work. Both of you are great guys and beneficial to the PDGA and sport in your own ways, and I'd like to see you both get along.

I feel like Dr. Phil here now. :D

I hope to see you both at Worlds in KC and Ben, you can have your little one meet the Future World Champion #13697 if you are there.

Keith

The 2nd round ratings for the Columbus Ice Bowl are still wrong. The intermediates and rec players played the short tees. So all of the pro and advanced ratings should be higher. Pro women played the short tees as well.

Being corrected

I see it was corrected. What seems odd to me is that I was at 971 when they added the 2nd round with a lower rating. NOw that the 2nd round C-bus ice bowl has been fixed I am at 969, even though my rating is now higher for the 2nd round.

Why would this be? Not that it matters, but it would seem the rating should go up if my round rating went up as well??

Just seems strange.

probably pushed a hot round out of being double rated.

Check it out. I think they got the corrections updated properly now.

Thanks Chuck!