As the Players Cup approaches (good luck with the alligators everyone!), we have finished retooling our old rankings system and have issued our first new and improved Prime Disc Golf Rankings.

http://www.primediscs.com/world-rankings.asp

If you are interested in an overview of how we figure this out, visit this page:

http://www.primediscs.com/primepercent.asp

This is the first "final" version of this new system. If you see something that seems a bit odd, please question it and we will look into the numbers behind the numbers and see if things make sense.

When the results of the Players Cup are finalized, we will be posting the updated Prime Player of the Year rankings, and these will be final for 2008, as the Players Cup is the final A-Tier or above event this year.

Are you going to have Masters and Women separated out like you had in the past, or just everyone together Craig-like, with a sliding percentage? :D

Over the next year, I plan to add a women's ranking. Not sure about the Masters yet as they don't have many big big events where everyone plays.

Eric McCabe moves up three spots with his Player's Cup victory!
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This week's rankings:

http://www.primediscs.com/world-rankings.asp
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Note: I found one error with the overall percentage computation and some of the movement from last week to this was caused by this tweak.

Moccasin Lake results are now included (Nikko Locastro moves up to 9th) and the 2008 rankings are complete:

http://www.primediscs.com/world-rankings.asp

Dave Feldberg
Nate Doss
Steven Rico
Eric Mccabe
Avery Jenkins
Barry Schultz
Josh Anthon
Ken Climo
Nikko Locastro
Markus Kallstrom

With the first A-Tier of the 2009 Season completed, the World Rankings have been updated.

http://www.primediscs.com/world-rankings.asp

Steve,

do you have plans to update after each A tier and NT?

Yes.

Well, as soon as their scores are posted, yes.

Quick question, what's the minimum stats you have to have to qualify as for your world rankings? It's different from the PDGA's isn't it?

Just read the first post which obviously says if you want to know how we figure this out click this link. So nevermind, :) hehe.

Rankings updated with The Memorial:

http://primediscs.com/world-rankings.asp

Nikko does not move up, but he does close a nearly 2 point Prime Percentage to nearly .1 away from Ken Climo in 8th.

Big Jumps:

John Child: 18 spots
Ken Franks: 13 spots (because his 36th from last year dropped off)
Paul Ulibarri: 10 spots
Gregg Barsby: 10 spots
Geoff Bennett: 6 spots
Steve Brinster: 6 spots (from 20th to 14th!)

Rankings updated with The Carolina Clash and the St. Pats Classic:

http://primediscs.com/world-rankings.asp

Schwebbie gets his 10th event point and moves up 4 spots to 9th.
Johansen moves up 14 spots from 50th to 36th.
Derek Billings moves up 21 spots from 61st to 40th.

I like how in the Prime discs rankings, you don't drop spots from winning a Major, an A-tier, and 3 B-tiers over the winter.

I know right, I like the fact that I'm even ranked. I'm a 1004 rated player ranked like 87th on the prime discs list but not even ranked on the PDGA world rankings. But some people who have played like 1 tourney are. The requirements for the PDGA world rankings I think are lacking.

That is because the PDGA only covers a few events.

Heck the only one I ever make is usually worlds.

Prime is decent but I wish it had a B-tier rating or something like the pdga to play in as well for averages.

PDGA World Rankings determine ratings only using rounds in B-tiers and higher for North American players and players need at least 12 rounds with a rating over 999 to be included. That's typically at least 3 Majors/NT/A-tiers or 4 B-tiers, not just 1 event. If your regular rating is over 999 and you're not in the World Rankings, it likely means you may have done better in C-tiers and/or more recent events where the rounds are doubled weighted. There's no double weighting to determine ratings for World Rankings.

Prime's rankings are really more like regularly updated North American Rankings than World Rankings because players outside North America have a hard time doing well with so many US events included. The PDGA World Rankings are structured so international players can and do play the major events included directly for points and their regional events even at C-tier level can contribute to their World Ranking rating.

PDGA World Rankings determine ratings only using rounds in B-tiers and higher for North American players and players need at least 12 rounds with a rating over 999 to be included. That's typically at least 3 Majors/NT/A-tiers or 4 B-tiers, not just 1 event. If your regular rating is over 999 and you're not in the World Rankings, it likely means you may have done better in C-tiers and/or more recent events where the rounds are doubled weighted. There's no double weighting to determine ratings for World Rankings.

Prime's rankings are really more like regularly updated North American Rankings than World Rankings because players outside North America have a hard time doing well with so many US events included. The PDGA World Rankings are structured so international players can and do play the major events included directly for points and their regional events even at C-tier level can contribute to their World Ranking rating.




I get how the ratings work for it Chuck I am talking about the limited number of events where you have ranked info entered. Worlds, Memorial, USDGC,Japan/Euro, and Players Cup doesn't seem like enough to me. Adding NTs would be cool.

All of those NT events, A & B tiers are included all over the world via the World Ranking rating which counts for at least 30% of the World Ranking. Just consider that a player's finish position in the majors simply provides bonus points making those events count 2 to 3 times more important than all of the other events in the World Ranking rating.

All of those NT events, A & B tiers are included all over the world via the World Ranking rating which counts for at least 30% of the World Ranking. Just consider that a player's finish position in the majors simply provides bonus points making those events count 2 to 3 times more important than all of the other events in the World Ranking rating.




Your right! It's perfect.

They should include SN events.

SN events that are PDGA B-tiers and higher get included via the player ratings of those world ranked players who play them like Matty O.

Ah, Well There are maybe 1 or 2 of those every season, we got some good players down here though (and some of the big events, 220+ at memphis dogwood classic last year)

Any players from outside North America? No majors. Maybe the big SN events could be included in the Prime rankings if they aren't already. But they aren't suitable for the PDGA World Rankings except via the player ratings as mentioned already. You have to be a current PDGA member and have a World Ranked rating over 1000 to be included to start with.

We will definitely include the SN Finals (even though they are just a lowly B-Tier ;) )

I'd love to hear of other high caliber events to include.

Chuck, are there many European and Asian A-tiers this year?

There are A-tiers in Copenhagen (April) and Stockholm (June) and then the European Open Major in Tampere, Finland (August). No A-tiers in Asia this year. I may add the Copenhagen and/or Stockholm event to our World Rankings in place of the Japan Open since this is their off year. But it will depend whether enough top players attend either of those events.

We will definitely include the SN Finals (even though they are just a lowly B-Tier ;) )

I'd love to hear of other high caliber events to include.




Last year it was a C-tier. Payed 1000+ to the top 4 players too with 1st getting like 2500.

Yeah, C tier means more money for the players :)
We almost didn't sanction it this season.

Here are the 07 Results
http://www.sndg.org/stats/event.php/800

Rankings updated with The Atlanta Open:

http://primediscs.com/world-rankings.asp

The rankings are based on performance over the past year and with Eric McCabe and Josh Anthon switching places (5th & 7th) and not playing this week, it makes me wonder if the rankings should degrade the value of an event over time. This would avoid jumps like this as older events fall off.

To us humans, it would seem better. Would it be better?

Texas States is in the books. With his win, Matt Orum breaks in to the top 10.

http://primediscs.com/world-rankings.asp

Copenhagen and Glass Blown Open are in the books. Doss' win improves his numbers more than Feldberg's win and Doss becomes our #1 ranked player in the world. McCabe drops a couple more spots. Avery secures 4th.

http://primediscs.com/world-rankings.asp

McCabe went in injured! Shot pretty decent anyway.

I've always wondered about the injury thing. Perhaps dropping a tourney or two for every 10 that you play would make sense. It is an interesting point on both sides of the coin.

Green Country Open (NT) and the Dogwood Crosstown (A-Tier) are in the books. Doss' win strengthens his #1 ranking. Schwebbie gets the win and his 10th event point at the Dogwood and catapults into the top 10.

The biggest jump is Adam hunt who went from 900+ (aka, not ranked) to just inside the top 150. Keep playing the big events Adam, you could break the top 50 without a sweat!

http://primediscs.com/world-rankings.asp

St. Louis Open and Alabama States are in the books. The World Rankings are updated. And, imo, we have our first seeming glitch. Nikko wins the St. Louis open and drops one spot in the rankings. With the year old events worth as much as the brand new events things like this can happen and it really makes the case for degrading value of events over time seem like a necessity. The real question is, what time frame?

Last 6 months full value.
6 months before that 2/3 value
6 months before that 1/3 value

Just an idea. Any feedback / thoughts would be great. I'd love to see the pros and cons of any side of degrading event values over time.

http://www.primediscs.com/world-rankings.asp

Masters Cup and CCR are in the books. Barsby's win moves him up five spots.

http://primediscs.com/world-rankings.asp

Beaver State Fling and the VA Open are in the books.

http://primediscs.com/world-rankings.asp

Greater Peoria and Hall of Fame are in the books. The Swiss Open is in from last week and Jesper Lundmark gains another event point and moves up 9 spots to 7th!

http://primediscs.com/world-rankings.asp

When's the next update for the Prime Discs world rankings? Last one was on May 27th I believe.

I update it every Wednesday, but I don't always update the date! Last update was June 3rd. Next update is tomorrow.

Ahh, I see. Cool cool

I get these things less and less.................

Bratten took last place last weekend and moves up a spot!

Week before I beat the only 2 ranked guys and moved down 23.

Matt - You have to look at how he comes up with the formula and which tiered Events matter.

It all makes sense if you follow what he's posted.

Just play better. :)

Matt - You have to look at how he comes up with the formula and which tiered Events matter.

It all makes sense if you follow what he's posted.

Just play better. :)

The thing is I get about 75% of it which is about as much as anyone I know. They were Both B-tiers which should be included. My only guess is something else dropped out but I didn't really have anything big last year.

Also I think a lot of this depends on who the "usual" ranked players in your area are. I play with quite a few guys ranked higher than me (Coda, Olse, E-mac) and if I lose to them is is weighted just the same as losing to the number 150 guy. IMO Coda and E-mac should beat me most of the time if they aren't off their game so even when shooting well you may lose to those two who just so happen to be the only other ranked guys.

Just looking at the list I notice some higher ranked players who IMO aren't as good as they are ranked while I see quite a few below me who are better than many in the top 50. I think this has something to do with who you usually play with ( high rated ranked players or low rated players) as well as number of appearances as events with many ranked players.

Firstly, thanks for taking the time to care about and look at the way this stuff is figured. Currently only A-tiers and above are used. There are two half reasons for this.

1/2 reason #1: When you get to the B-Tier level, the events tend to be much more local / regional and the goal is to get a broader range of competition. In an ideal world, I'd like to only include NT type events.

1/2 reason #2: In the programming, I use the PDGA Number as the player ID. At B-Tiers and below, players may not have a PDGA Number, therefore these events are not used.

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In regards to the win-loss vs easier / tougher opponents, if you beat a player with a higher rating, it counts more than if you beat a player with a lower rating. Similarly, if you lose to a player with a higher rating, it matters less than if you lose to a player with a lower rating.

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Lastly, in regards to the jump or drop that seems to contradict a result from that week, I touched in this a few weeks back and I have not yet implemented any change. Before I do, I'd like to figure out what seems to be the best way to tweak it.

St. Louis Open and Alabama States are in the books. The World Rankings are updated. And, imo, we have our first seeming glitch. Nikko wins the St. Louis open and drops one spot in the rankings. With the year old events worth as much as the brand new events things like this can happen and it really makes the case for degrading value of events over time seem like a necessity. The real question is, what time frame?

Last 6 months full value.
6 months before that 2/3 value
6 months before that 1/3 value

Just an idea. Any feedback / thoughts would be great. I'd love to see the pros and cons of any side of degrading event values over time.

http://www.primediscs.com/world-rankings.asp

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Note: I've been crazy busy this week and have not yet updated the rankings for this week. I hope to get it done tonight while Letterman cracks me up.

Weren't B-tiers included when this 1st started? Normally I have a good memory on this kind of stuff and I though originally B's were included.


Also at this point traveling to most A-tiers is a waste of money especially when there was a B-tier last weekend with better payout than both A-tiers/ Out of my 14 events this year I'm pretty sure only 1 is an A-tier. Now if I was like all the other young players who hit up all the A-tiers maybe this wouldn't be true but at this point in time I am more focused on school than Golf.


I don't pay too much attention to either this ranking or to the PDGA's since most player's only get to play with each other at the "low paying" World Championship and that is where I try to get a read on things.

Yes, our original version of this did include B-Tiers and entering the folks that were not PDGA members turned out to be a significant expenditure of time - and none of them ever cracked the top couple hundred.

I will put the B-tier thought in my head on the back burner and see if anything steams out.

Whoops. Double Post.

Enjoy this weeks rankings, you may notice some changes: http://primediscs.com/world-rankings.asp

Here goes nothing. We were the first disc golf ranking system, and now we're setting the bar again. In addition to continuing to be the only disc golf ranking system that updates weekly, we are now the only disc golf ranking system that degrades the value of older events. This should resolve the big jump as older events fell off the ranking system.

We implemented three adjustments to the ranking system this week.

Starting June 21st, the rankings now incorporate diminishing values on events older than 180 days (aka 6 months). Events older than 180 days will lose .5% value per day (3.5% per week) for 200 days, when their rankings value will be zero. (Note: this does not hold true for Majors. The last five Majors have a minimum weighting value of 1, 1, .75, .5 and .25 respectively.

Also starting June 21st, we adjusted the Major to NT weighting. Previously, Majors were weighted 3-2 compared to NTs. Upon review, especially with the weighting, they are now equal value.

Lastly, we adjusted the Event Points multipliers due to the lessened Event Point values of older events.

With the Stockholm Open the only A-Tier or higher event, the Europeans tended to move up this week as they garnered more Event Points. Jesper and Ville both moved up 5 and 8 spots respectively while Markus, who won the event, closed the gap for 9th overall in the world from 1.7 points out to .1 point behind Schwebbie.

The diminishing event values seemed to hold up as a valid way of doing this as everyone who did not play had their event points diminish by a few percent, just as we would hope.

http://primediscs.com/world-rankings.asp

Enjoy the stats, I've also added in an extra column so we can track players' movement over the past month or so.

Roscoe's Revenge and Fort St. are in the rankings.

Nikko and Avery move up with the 1st and 2nd at Roscoe's (with 2nd-4th being crazy tight).
Nate Sexton wins Fort St. and jumps six spots to 27th.

http://www.primediscs.com/world-rankings.asp

Enjoy. Comments are always welcome.

Brent Hambrick results are in. Feldberg moves up one spot to 4th and is just .01 behind Josh Anthon for third. Tyler Horne and Brad Schick make big moves up as their Event Points increase with the BHMO (if you have less then 10 event points, your overall rating is penalized by 2.5% for every event point less than 10.)

http://www.primediscs.com/world-rankings.asp

Enjoy. Comments are always welcome.

Still think it is funny Bratten is above me but hasn't beaten me in over 6 months. Heck I'm not sure if he has tried to practice in that time but I have stayed in the 70's forever because B-tiers no longer count and they are the only thing around here in the summertime besides Worlds. Mike Olse is also a good way above both of us yet that is based on 1-2 events when we play almost every weekend around the state yet those are not factored in. This is partially why I think a lot of players stay in the same 5 spot area forever because of the lack if qualifying ranked events.

Anyway after the top 20 I don't pay too much attention and I still think it is funny my buddy Bratten is 7 spots above me yet I beat him by way to many strokes at the last event. For his sake it was a pitch and putt not suitable to just bombing hyzers but still those type of events should count in someway even if it is at 1/2 value.

Hi Matt,

I almost replied without reading your whole post. Glad I finished it up and read that you see the event points is the only reason you are lower than Bratten.

Heck, if you stayed consistent and got 4 or so event points, you'd launch up to 30th.

We are still working on the automated system and B-Tier inclusion is on the table for that upgrade.

Steve.

the inclusion of btiers should have an interesting impact. this is a great service you provide, mr dodge. i'm sure you don't hear it enough.


also, why do you hate the tournaments in texas, matt?

the inclusion of btiers should have an interesting impact. this is a great service you provide, mr dodge. i'm sure you don't hear it enough.


also, why do you hate the tournaments in texas, matt?



Actually I love the tournaments in TX. It is awesome that we have a B-tier almost every weekend within traveling distance but it is just a bummer that we get left out in many areas like USDGC spots which means players like Olse and Brad have to wait until Worlds to have a shot at a spot. I would be in the same boat too if it weren't for the TX rep spot and it is a bummer to know you only get one shot at a spot.

My whole beef with that is the fact when I was in the midwest during the summer a few years back we had 5 chances to qualify in a periods just over 2 months long but players in the south have few qualifiers (OK and Little Rock)

Hi Matt,

I almost replied without reading your whole post. Glad I finished it up and read that you see the event points is the only reason you are lower than Bratten.

Heck, if you stayed consistent and got 4 or so event points, you'd launch up to 30th.

We are still working on the automated system and B-Tier inclusion is on the table for that upgrade.

Steve.

Hey Steve with the PDGA new membership number to all participants in PDGA events should you not have the missing piece you need to include the B-tier events? But maybe implement it in January 2010 so that Matt can fester about it a little longer.

I enjoy the ranking system as I am a numbers geek!!!

Hey Steve with the PDGA new membership number to all participants in PDGA events should you not have the missing piece you need to include the B-tier events? But maybe implement it in January 2010 so that Matt can fester about it a little longer.

I enjoy the ranking system as I am a numbers geek!!!


Thanks for that..............I'm still sitting at #78 for the past month or so. If B-tiers were to be included there is one one guy who would make the list that I play with nearly every week which would mean 2-3 other ranked players at each B-tier in TX.

The guy is rated above 1000 and not ranked but a 970 Texan is (I assume he payed another A-tier besides states).

Hey Steve with the PDGA new membership number to all participants in PDGA events should you not have the missing piece you need to include the B-tier events? But maybe implement it in January 2010 so that Matt can fester about it a little longer.

I enjoy the ranking system as I am a numbers geek!!!

The idea of letting Matt fester when there is no need is an attractive one ... but I digest. Is this happening now (new member number to all participants)? When I looked at two random B-Tiers from March, there were players that did not have a PDGA number.

The idea of letting Matt fester when there is no need is an attractive one ... but I digest. Is this happening now (new member number to all participants)? When I looked at two random B-Tiers from March, there were players that did not have a PDGA number.

They would not have their numbers right away, but the PDGA would send them a rule book, member number and a mini with their PDGA# on it after the final TD report is submitted. Dave Gentry wrote about it in Issue 5 of Flying Disc, so I guess not all the information in these magazines is outdated and not worth reading. Maybe if you contact the PDGA office or Dave Gentry directly they can give you some more feedback about it. After all, you are doing everyone a service and maybe they could help you out.

The only funny thing about the new system is that I am guessing the PDGA nor the TD are going back and adding the PDGA# to the report for the individuals who signed up at the event. The only time I think it happens is when individuals request it after they see their number in the mail. I think this needs to be hammered out better and made clear for those involved.

Thanks for the info. You are probably right that the system still has a few kinks in it (like, who puts the numbers in the scoring DB). For the time being, I'll let HQ worry about Worlds and the last NT of the season. Maybe after things settle down a touch I'll mention this sorta glitch to them.

First Class Challenge is in. David Feldberg moves back into second in the World Rankings.

http://primediscs.com/world-rankings.asp

Worlds results are in. Nate Doss maintains his hold on the #1 spot, but Avery and Josh close the gap considerably. Avery moves up to 2nd. Josh moves up to 3rd. And Feldberg moves down two spots to 4th. Jesper Lundmark gains more event points and moves up to 7th position. The biggest move was Mitch Sonderfan, ranked 274th going into Worlds, and jumping 146 spots to 128th. Can he keep his upward momentum going at the Vibram Open? Will Avery be the first MPO player to repeat at Maple Hill? Only time will tell.

Watch the drama unfold live at http://www.vibramopen.com as we break the live coverage barrier and set a new standard for live coverage of disc golf. The future is here.

http://primediscs.com/world-rankings.asp

random thought and may have been discussed before but ...

had it ever been discussed that the person that wins worlds should get immediately bumped up to #1 on the 'World Rankings'? At least for a week or whenever the next ranking comes out.

if a team wins the NCAA tourney (bball) they are ranked #1 even if they were previously 15th or whatever.

good idea? bad idea?

It seems like a nice idea, kind of like saying, "at least for last week, playing at the World Championships, you were the best." but I'd tend to stick with the rankings being real based on performance over the past 12 months (with the most recent 6 months weighted a bit more).

I don't think they do this (bump someone to #1) in tennis, golf, or bowling, so I'm fine with the system as is on that front. At least the rankings changed the week after worlds and Avery and Josh got a significant bump in the right direction.

on a related note, i would hereby like to congratulate stack for being named the number one poster on the pdga message board for the past week.


congratulations, stack.

lol... hilarious Greg... i'd like to thank everyone that got me here. my typing teacher ("hands on the home row"), time warner cable for the 'high speed' internet access, my toshiba tablet computer for being mobile and allowing me to post in lots of places.

on the world champ/rankings part... is it concievable that someone could finish 2nd or 3rd @ almost every tourney or A tier and others could have some BIG wins here or there at tourneys like Worlds & USDGC and some poor performances in other tournies and the person who never actually won anything gets ranked #1 in the world over the other? If the purpose of the world rankings is to figure out who the best averaged golfer is then this works but would just think giving some 'world champ love' to the guy that just beat almost all of the guys on the world rankings list in a head to head competition might be in order as well.

thanks for keeping up the rankings and for all the work... im sure its no small endeavour keeping it all together!

the borg tied for fifth at the world championships and fell two spots. disc golf rankings are heated. i imagine this would all mean more if it meant something other than bragging rights.

how about the giving the year end leaders a pair of five fingers?

Your scenario is conceivable. If we had a Greg Norman type player who just could not finish and always got second, he could (and probably) would be ranked the best in the world. And as an average, he probably would be.

This makes me think of two things:

1. Win Bump: Perhaps there should be a little extra bump for winning an event. Not much, but perhaps the MWP difference between 1st and 2nd should be a tad bigger than the MWP difference between 2nd and 3rd. (note MWP is Modified Winning Percentage and it is basically a player's winning percentage with an adjustment for the quality of players they beat). Is getting first and beating 50 players significantly better than getting second and beating 49 players?

2. Bad Event Drop: Perhaps we should throw out a player's worst event if they reach a certain number of event points. I remember a couple years back, Climo was ranked #1 and then he played horribly (for him) at the KCWO. His ranking dropped precipitously, but none of us thought that he had lost his game, he just had a bad weekend. and then earlier this year, McCabe hurt (broke?) his hand and he had some below average (for him) results. Should there be an allowance for these types of anomalies?

The rankings are a living thing that, I expect, will change over time as our views of what it means to be the best in the world change. The more input the better.

the fedex cup incorporates a similar system to the one you are proposing, with points allocated at every tournament and a premium given to wins and high finishes. they also use the standings to determine who is eligible to advance to a series of playoff events ultimately crowning a champion. some people believe this has been a failure from the start. i have always enjoyed it because it fills in the dead weeks of the season with meaningful events. of course, they are only meaningful because they playing for a multi million dollar annuity, so this is all probably beside the point.

world golf rankings are determined by average points per event over a two year period, I think. the difference being, points awarded for each event are only maintained for a few months to reward recent performance. does that make sense? in a sense, you are steadily losing points while attempting to earn new ones to replace them. if you continue to play and play near the same level you should theoretically earn around the same points per event. i think the prime discs system works similarly, but the time frames are different.

Vibram Open, Mad City Open, and the Scholl's PDFO are all in the books (sorry for taking last week off with the rankings, we were a tad busy : -D)

Barry Schultz moves up two spots to sixth with his impressive win at The Vibram Open.

http://primediscs.com/world-rankings.asp

Vibram Open, Mad City Open, and the Scholl's PDFO are all in the books (sorry for taking last week off with the rankings, we were a tad busy : -D)

Barry Schultz moves up two spots to sixth with his impressive win at The Vibram Open.

http://primediscs.com/world-rankings.asp

Sorry but I gotta do it.

So I win a B-tier this weekend while beating 4 other ranked players and then move down 9 spots...........

Heck at worlds I played like Junk and moved up like 10.

Sorry but I gotta do it.

So I win a B-tier this weekend while beating 4 other ranked players and then move down 9 spots...........

Heck at worlds I played like Junk and moved up like 10.

It is probably a conspiracy. And at least you paused before you did it. : -D

See you next year in New England?

It is probably a conspiracy. And at least you paused before you did it. : -D

See you next year in New England?



Fore SHURE

We caught an error in the calculations that had caused the 2008 USDGC to be double weighted. Needless to say, this had affected the rankings significantly. While Nate Doss would have still been #1 (right up until this week!), his Prime Points lead should have been much smaller.

It is all corrected and Jesper's second Major victory in his last three tries has launched him into the #1 Ranked Spot. He got a triple boost this week.

First, by playing in a major, he earned enough event points so that he was no longer penalized (by our system) for not having played enough events. Second, he won a PDGA Major against over 100 competitors, including five of the top 10 ranked players. Third, The USDGC error knocked Nate Doss down a full Prime Point.

Jesper now leads in all three ranking categories (MWP, Score and Money). If he keeps playing A-Tiers and above at this level, he could be on top for a long time to come.

http://www.primediscs.com/world-rankings.asp

Prime Discs World Rankings updated. Sorry they are a couple days late.

http://primediscs.com/world-rankings.asp

Brad Schick, Dave Feldberg and Kyle Crabtree all win A-Tiers and move up significantly.

Jesper Lundmark is at 10 event points and without another event, will begin being penalized for too few events next week. We could see a nice little shake up among the top players these next few weeks leading up to the USDGC.

Prime Discs World Rankings updated. Sorry they are a day late. (anyone have any extra midnight oil I can borrow? I'm running low : -D)

http://primediscs.com/world-rankings.asp

Brinster moves up with an impressive win at the Yetter.
Cale secures his spot with his win while Ulibari's 2nd moves him into the top 20.

Hi Steve,
Is there a page we can see everyone on the list?
Bob

Not yet. But hopefully we'll get that going for next year.

Not yet. But hopefully we'll get that going for next year.



Well no matter what I say about never moving anywhere in the rankings your system is more correct than last time............................Bratten is finally behind me. lol

Nother B-tier this weekend beating Olse, Bratten, and Brad but those don't matter. lol


Nikko will move up after this weekend at PTSCP as well.

how many tournaments do you have to play in before you get ranked?

You need to either play an NT or Major or cash at an A-Tier.

You need to either play an NT or Major or cash at an A-Tier.
Just curious sir......How do you come up w/ a ranking from just one cash in an ATier? thanks, for your help.

Steve- Thanks for doing the rankings. I'm curious how close I'm to breaking the top 150, is there a way to tell?

Thanks again,
Dana

Just curious sir......How do you come up w/ a ranking from just one cash in an ATier? thanks, for your help.

That is an excellent question. And one that could have multiple interpretation based on the ranking system. Our method of calculation is posted on the rankings page:

http://primediscs.com/world-rankings.asp

At the top of the green box just above the rankings there is a link to the Prime Points Calculation. Let me know if this does not clear stuff up.

Steve.

I need to play in more tournaments and maybe I to will be ranked. Thanks Steve and nice website!

The new rankings are up: http://www.primediscs.com/world-rankings.asp

A day late as usual. : -D

Nikko closes the gap between he and Josh (3rd and 4th) to just .13 Prime Ranking Points (from .42) with his win.

Jojo moves up four spots to 14th with his win.

We are also excited to see Cam Todd back in the World Rankings. His second place finish behind Jojo puts him in 66th place. With some more event points under his belt, he could move into the top 20.

Oh yeah, and Pat Pitts comes in at 89th.

Hey I made it! I am ranked, now just get a better one. Thanks Steve !

The new rankings are up: http://www.primediscs.com/world-rankings.asp

A day late as usual. : -D

With last week's A-Tier victory, Nikko closes to within .07 Prime Points of the #2 spot - Nate Doss.

Cale Leiviska advances a couple spots with his win.

And, in a one month late surprise jump, Coda Hatfield jumps nine spots due to his SN victory. We are investigating the best way to incorporate B-Tiers and came across SN which should have been included anyway. Enjoy the new rankings.

Special early edition of the Prime Discs World Rankings. With Nikko's win and Jesper's abysmal (for him) rounds at the USDGC, Nikko leap frogs Nate Doss to claim the #1 spot in the world rankings.

http://primediscs.com/world-rankings.asp

Other big movers include Michael Johansen, who has been playing very hot as of late and has been steadily moving up. He jumps 10 spots to 4th. Phil Arthur jumps 25 spots to 14th. Both of these increases in rank were aided by gaining four event points (in addition to their good play) at the USDGC.

Jesper falls from 1st to 12th. This big jump is partially due to his low number of event points which makes every event critical to his overall ranking.

10/21 Rankings are complete. Nate Doss and Josh Anthon finish 5th and 9th at the NorCal A-Tier and lose just enough Prime Ranking Points to let Michael Johansen sneak into 2nd on an off weekend.

Chris Vilmorin jumps 93 spots with his win.
Cale Leiviska moves up to 8th with his win.

And we can't help but watch Cam Todd climb the rankings ladder as he gains more and more event points. He is up to 72nd now. If he maintains this level of play thru four more events, he'll move up to 33rd.

http://www.primediscs.com/world-rankings.asp

All that rest sure must be beneficial
welcome back cam todd.
I learned about disc golf after your hiatus began.

Eric McCabe wins the Oklahoma Open and moves up three spots - on his long climb back to the top 10. You saw it written here first.

http://www.primediscs.com/world-rankings.asp

Nikko wins HOTT, grows lead a wee bit. McCabe gets 2nd, moves up a couple more spots. Ulibarri gets 3rd, moves up another spot.

New rankings are up for 11/10/09.

http://primediscs.com/world-rankings.asp