cdamon
Nov 04 2003, 07:34 AM
Well, it's finally here. We hope you like it. We feel that this product (from Infopop) is an improvement both from a user's and from an administrator's perspective. The old board (from DiscusWare) was difficult to maintain and enhance, and did not scale well. It brought down the server on several occasions, which (aside from matters of preference) necessitated the move to new software.
In any case, the content of the Discus board has been preserved. 3534 user accounts and 112183 posts have been moved from Discus into the UBB board. The infamous MRV thread lives on :p
-Conrad
I like the looks of the new board and welcome the improvement but...
Is there a view similar to the main page of the old board? I liked it because it was easy to see which topics were active.
If there was a topic I was interested in it was easy to see if I was up-to-date.
It very well may be available -- I just can't seem to find it.
Dave
discette
Nov 04 2003, 08:29 AM
Well, now that we have a new board, I have a new title....Addict.
My name is Discette, and I am an addict. I didn't know I was an addict until this morning. So, I am not ready to go to any 12 step programs. This title can't be changed by me. It was bestowed on me by some all-knowing, all-seeing programmer.
I can't wait to see who the other addicts are..as if I don't know.
As for this new message board...When I figure out exactly how to use it, I will let you know.
Chris Hysell
Nov 04 2003, 08:43 AM
Discette, they are trying to make me feel old. I am listed as veteran.
I wanted to add a picture to my profile but they limit it to 80x80 pixels. That is about the size of my thumbnail.
ching_lizard
Nov 04 2003, 08:54 AM
Uhgghhh! Man! This thing is klutzy! It seems pretty quick, but I can't tell who has been posting to which thread, and I can't distinguish what threads I've read, and which ones contain new posts.
Ahhh, I'm embracing the change....sigh... :O
On the old board, I could display all posts that were new since the last time I checked. Is there a similar function here?
ching_lizard
Nov 04 2003, 09:00 AM
My prediction for the future is that there will be a lot fewer posts! :D
steveganz
Nov 04 2003, 09:06 AM
Rodney, from the Main Index page, scroll to the bottom and you will see options to view recent messages within the:
Past 24 hours
Past 48 hours
Past 7 days
The messages will be displayed chronologically with the most recent at the top. Fairly similar to the old board.
i like the old board better :confused: :p :(
Pretty cool, it's about time. I have been using boards like this for a couple of years about cars and computers. Did y'all know you can do this:
http://www.usdgc.com/gallery/sunday_noon/images/DSC_0012.jpg
Look at that sexy beast, nice [*****]..I mean PUTT! Where's the smarties?!
Not really even close Steve. But thanks for the suggestion.
But I did find that I can mark all messages as Read, then next time I come back the new ones kind of stick out. Though I still think I'll miss some new ones that come in while I'm reading that get marked as Read at the end of my session.
when I try and enter my password I get this
"Incorrect password for that login name.
You will be returned to the login screen shortly "
and when I try to post using my name of seewhere I get this below
We cannot proceed.
"The username you are trying to post under has already registered and is being used by someone else.
Please use your back button to return to the previous page."
what the HELL is going on
why Am I getting this???
thanks The real Seewhere
steveganz
Nov 04 2003, 09:51 AM
Did you use the temporary password that was sent to you? If you didn't receive an email with a temp password, use the "Forget your password?" form at the bottom of the login page.
seewhere
Nov 04 2003, 09:59 AM
got the pasword. thanks
seewhere
Nov 04 2003, 09:59 AM
steve where did the word "Pooh Bah" come from by my loginname?
ching_lizard
Nov 04 2003, 10:01 AM
and make sure that you've got the right case for each letter/character of your password...it's case sensitive.
seewhere
Nov 04 2003, 10:02 AM
as soon as I logged in I changed my password back to the old..
Chris Hysell
Nov 04 2003, 10:03 AM
It's based on your number of posts.
testap
Nov 04 2003, 10:03 AM
1) How do you post a new message without hitting the reply button??
2) How come every time I go into My Home I have to login again?? :confused:
Chris Hysell
Nov 04 2003, 10:03 AM
I
Chris Hysell
Nov 04 2003, 10:04 AM
only
Chris Hysell
Nov 04 2003, 10:04 AM
need
Chris Hysell
Nov 04 2003, 10:05 AM
a
Chris Hysell
Nov 04 2003, 10:05 AM
few
Chris Hysell
Nov 04 2003, 10:05 AM
hundred
seewhere
Nov 04 2003, 10:06 AM
you won't make Pooh-bah status Hysell :)
Chris Hysell
Nov 04 2003, 10:06 AM
more.
Chris Hysell
Nov 04 2003, 10:07 AM
You're right. I'll probably be banned for being so pretty.
I want to post some pics.
seewhere
Nov 04 2003, 10:09 AM
haven't tried to figure out the picture stuff yet but when I do look out.. :)
Chris, that is called post whoring and it is not cool in other boards, Moderators will reset your count to combat that. then you will need thousands.....
haven't tried to figure out the picture stuff yet but when I do look out.. :)
All you have to do is host the pic somewhere then click image and enter the address to the pic and Wahla!:
http://www.usdgc.com/gallery/thursday_afternoon/images/DSC_0076.jpg
seewhere
Nov 04 2003, 10:13 AM
Hey Ben how did you put your picture with your name?
sandalman
Nov 04 2003, 10:15 AM
hi
testap
Nov 04 2003, 10:15 AM
yeah it doesn't look like Chris got anywhere with all those posts.. His number never changed
seewhere
Nov 04 2003, 10:15 AM
thanks I have no where to host the picture, :(
sandalman
Nov 04 2003, 10:16 AM
and they thought censorship was a hard job before ! :D
What a nifty bunch of smiley's. This is going to take some getting used to. :p I do like the image fuction. Here is me doing the Disc Golf arabesque. http://www.west-point.org/users/usma1987/43899/Twinkle.jpg
Hey Ben how did you put your picture with your name?
Go to your profile and link a picture in the space provided for a pic of yourself or something else.
Pizza God
Nov 04 2003, 10:20 AM
<font color="red"> </font> Ok, this is going to take a while to get use to, but it is alot faster. <font color="green"> </font> I to spend alot of time on the old board because it was easy to use for someone like me. I assume that I will get use to this one also.
testap
Nov 04 2003, 10:21 AM
man I don't know if I would post too many of those pictures..
Pizza God
Nov 04 2003, 10:22 AM
Old Hand?????? :D
orotter
Nov 04 2003, 10:27 AM
That's why I made it anonymous, oops! :o
Pizza God
Nov 04 2003, 10:28 AM
just playing <font color="green"> </font>
august
Nov 04 2003, 10:28 AM
Well, I hate new stuff, but I'll get used to it. Some of the stuff doesn't seem to work though. I have sent private e-mail to someone, but it doesn't show that I did. I tried it three times to make sure that I had done it right, but it still does not show that I sent any. Also, it appears that we can no longer create new topics of discussion. I have looked everywhere I can think of, but do not see it.
Pizza God
Nov 04 2003, 10:29 AM
How do I become the Pizza Slave or Pizza God again????? :confused:
thanks to the putergeeks who spent / spend the hours providing this DG forum.
censorship is lame though.
years ago i built a "music / arts / culture" forum for a magazine and enabled it to "post images"
i quickly removed that feature. i hope you webdudes don't run into the same lameitude i encountered with "photo uploads"
many newbies have no clue and do some fairly stupid stuff.
anywho, thanks to the volunteers. only one out of every 723,956 people on the planet volunteer for something.
orotter
Nov 04 2003, 10:36 AM
Pizza,
Go to "My Home" and edit your personal settings. You should be able to change your login to your old slavish self.
Y'all ain't got nuttin. Veteran? Old Hand? Child's play! Try Carpal Tunnel, BABY!
BTW, I didn't get an email with a new and/or temp password and I can't seem to login correctly, even though I'm recognized when I post. Help is appreciated. Don't like it, but I'll deal. And I will love the fact that its easier from an administrative point of view...and faster. Thanks for all the hard work Theo, Conrad and crew.
See, I'm not a total pain in the [*****]. :D
Pizza God
Nov 04 2003, 10:38 AM
What, did kevin get banned again :confused:
anywho, thanks to the volunteers. only one out of every 723,956 people on the planet volunteer for something.
I volunteered to be a Moderator to watch for that stuff but I didn't get an answer.
orotter
Nov 04 2003, 10:40 AM
Now that Emmit has moved on are you a Cardinals fan Mark? :D
UBB code also works in your signature, check out mine....
Pizza God
Nov 04 2003, 10:43 AM
ok, how did I post on one thread and it put in into another thread. :confused:
I liked the old forum better, sorry to see it go.
Pizza God
Nov 04 2003, 10:50 AM
Ok, I tried again and it told me the the administer had to approve it. SO I guess I have to wait to the the slave again. I guess that means you can't change it to suit your mood anymore. I always like changing it.
orotter
Nov 04 2003, 10:50 AM
Lurker! ;)
Lurker! ;)
Better yet: Lurkerhttp://www.columbusracing.com/ubb/graemlins/lurk.gif
I'm kind of scared of new things
I had no problem changing mine - maybe it is the word "slave" that needs to be approved? :eek:
I missed that one after I changed it - I guess you were right PS :D
So.... Does anyone know how to have a "collapsed" view on the last 24 hour section. Right now, ever post that is made comes up in that area when I click it...
Okay, well I posted first to the CTC thread and it recognized me, and now I have to post anonymously and can't login to my old account. I didn't do anything different, what gives? I tried the forgot password thing, but no email.
Help?
is this working????helloooo..........test,test,test.....
slowmo_1
Nov 04 2003, 11:10 AM
Mark, if you have the password that was sent to you when they changed the boards try it again with the thought in mind that it's CAPS sensative. so PrtSdT is different than prtsdt
Hope that works for you
so you have to login first, with the new password they send you and then you can post....ahh, weedhopper you are learning....
Never got one. One of the unfortunate features of the old board was that you couldn't change your registered email. I haven't had that email addy for two years. Filled out the forgotten password request with my current addy, but haven't received anything.
The weird part is that my first post today (CTC thread) registered as me, but I didn't do anything different than this. Now when I try to use my old login name I get told that its in use and I can't access it. Strange.
woodpecker
Nov 04 2003, 12:09 PM
WOW....where did my Woody go..
anywho, thanks to the volunteers. only one out of every 723,956 people on the planet volunteer for something.
I wonder what the numbers are on non paying skip out of town roommates are? kkkkkarma
So the new board allows anonymous posting? Is that a good thing? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
tpozzy
Nov 04 2003, 12:25 PM
Please bear with us as we work out the kinks, especially getting all the accounts corrected (bad emails, etc.). Cleaning up the old orphaned accounts was one of the benefits of switching, but we'll have to update some of the email addresses manually. If you think you need that done (and only after trying the "forgot password" link), send an email to monitor *at* pdga.com, and we'll try to get to it.
Understand that Conrad was up until the wee hours of the morning working on this, so allow some time for responses from one of us.
I noticed that screen (display) name changes are being routed through us for approval. I'm going to disable the approval process, and hope people don't abuse it (although I'm not sure how or why, since you could always do that on the old board, I think).
By the way, anonymous posts are on, but will be disabled very shortly.
-Theo Pozzy
PDGA Commissioner
PDGA Webmaster
underparmike
Nov 04 2003, 12:32 PM
oh my...i'll wait a couple weeks before passing judgment on this new bbs.
however, it doesn't seem to be faster to me...if you select"show all" messages or change your personal display setting greater than the default 10 messages at a time, oh my, it's back to the dinosaur era of computing.and it's a pain and time-consuming to have to click after only 10 posts. hopefully conrad & theo will be able to figure out this problem...i have faith!
until then, i have to agree with chinglizard...posts likely to dwindle, which is bad for me as i like to talk with every interested poster. also, some of the posts in some of the threads did not successfully make the transition. example :2004 NT/A/M scheduling thread lost a few at the end.
anywho, thanks to the volunteers. only one out of every 723,956 people on the planet volunteer for something.
I wonder what the numbers are on non paying skip out of town roommates are? kkkkkarma
I see a red X for your pic! Matchu, you cannot link a pic from your harddrive, it has to be hosted on a website somewhere.
girlie
Nov 04 2003, 12:53 PM
Thanks to all who had a part in the new board - lots of hard work, I'm sure :)
Difficult to navigate for me at first, but that's just my own resistence to change. I find it's just like switching word processor programs - you can still do all the same things and in some cases you have many more options - the difficulty is in finding the new ways to perform your old habits. Good luck and know that it can only get easier with time :confused:
I can't seem to get tables to work - I think I have tried everything - what am I missing lol
doh! thanks I will see what can be done about it, just because I see I take it does not mean you see it?
tafe
Nov 04 2003, 01:03 PM
I hope I'm doing this right. I don't like the fact that I have to go into every thread to see what's being said. On the old system, I could get the gist of the recent posts from the first page. Oh well, I'll wait and see. At least customizing is easier.
orotter
Nov 04 2003, 01:09 PM
A recent posts view like the old board would be nice. I''m going to see if I can customize my view that way.
orotter
Nov 04 2003, 01:22 PM
I get an out memory error when I try to view the tournaments thread. Anyone else?
girlie
Nov 04 2003, 01:25 PM
I just want to see if my pix is working.
I like the last 24 hour option to view new posts, but I find it frustrating that when you click on a thread you are at the beginning and need to fish through the pages to get to the end - it would be nice to have an end of thread button to move there quickly.
Thanks.
Looks like i will be less informed about the happenings in DG for now on. I really hate this board. Way too hard to browse around. I can see how this board would be nice for a smaller website, but there are way too many threads and topics here.
Oh well, now i will have more time to practice on my putting :)
steveganz
Nov 04 2003, 01:40 PM
Mikey, you can set the number of displayed threads at any given time to whatever you want. Go to "My Home", scroll to the bottom and click on the Edit link for "Display preferences, number of shown threads, languages, colors... "
it would be nice to have an end of thread button to move there quickly.
Thanks.
Go to My Home click on Display preferences and click the option to sort ascending date not descending Date.
Well, I HATE the new board. All the icons and pictures and graphics and circles and arrows add absolutely NOTHING to the discussion, and they waste a whole lot of real estate on the screen. The whole thing is cumbersome and annoying, and the actual text of the messages is much, much harder to get at. The actual text -- the ideas and conversations and information -- will be swamped by the graphics and gadgets and gizmos. I can't imagine why anyone would consider this a good thing. This will save time and effort for many people, as it will discourage posting. By giving people the option of posting huge pictures for amusement purposes, the board allows a few jokers to waste a lot of time (and money) that dial-up users will need to view the board. And downloading ALL the foolish smileystupid faces every time for every page is truly demented. I'm trying to be honest, and honestly, it's a real loser.
tpozzy
Nov 04 2003, 01:50 PM
We can turn off the ability to post images in seconds, if it is abused (we can also just crack down on the abusers).
I have made three changes to the configuration just now:
1) You must be registered and logged in to post.
2) You can change your display name without approval. Anyone caught masquerading as another user (which is why that option is there) will be permanently banned.
3) You can include spaces in your display name.
-Theo
Well, I HATE the new board. All the icons and pictures and graphics and circles and arrows add absolutely NOTHING to the discussion, and they waste a whole lot of real estate on the screen. The whole thing is cumbersome and annoying, and the actual text of the messages is much, much harder to get at. The actual text -- the ideas and conversations and information -- will be swamped by the graphics and gadgets and gizmos. I can't imagine why anyone would consider this a good thing. This will save time and effort for many people, as it will discourage posting. By giving people the option of posting huge pictures for amusement purposes, the board allows a few jokers to waste a lot of time (and money) that dial-up users will need to view the board. And downloading ALL the foolish smileystupid faces every time for every page is truly demented. I'm trying to be honest, and honestly, it's a real loser.
If you go in your preferences you can turn off all the pictures so you(only you) will not view them, look around and learn to use the software before you hate on it. Be informed before you post an opinion.
Nice pic Theo! Good to put a name with a face!
I like this a lot better than the old software. However, I wish you had gone with vBulletin over UBBthreads. vBulletin has a much more professional looking style set (IMO), a ton more features, and just "feels" better than UBB.
Still, this is an improvement!
pterodactyl
Nov 04 2003, 02:09 PM
This sux! What a waste of time trying to find anything! E-mail when this changes back so I can read something.
Well, I HATE the new board. All the icons and pictures and graphics and circles and arrows add absolutely NOTHING to the discussion, and they waste a whole lot of real estate on the screen. The whole thing is cumbersome and annoying, and the actual text of the messages is much, much harder to get at. The actual text -- the ideas and conversations and information -- will be swamped by the graphics and gadgets and gizmos. I can't imagine why anyone would consider this a good thing. This will save time and effort for many people, as it will discourage posting. By giving people the option of posting huge pictures for amusement purposes, the board allows a few jokers to waste a lot of time (and money) that dial-up users will need to view the board. And downloading ALL the foolish smileystupid faces every time for every page is truly demented. I'm trying to be honest, and honestly, it's a real loser.
If you go in your preferences you can turn off all the pictures so you(only you) will not view them, look around and learn to use the software before you hate on it. Be informed before you post an opinion.
I turned off everything available, and I don't see the pictures of the individual posters anymore, but I still see the large graphics in the body of the posts (like that picture somebody posted of a pink-haired golfer putting into a DisCatcher). I beg your pardon for having an opinion, but I am quite well informed.
It's as if the pool table in the quiet corner of my neighborhood pub had suddenly been replaced by a casino full of the cacophony of hundreds of clangorous slot machines and strobe lights and disco balls and blaring juke boxes.
It's a short-attention-span slacker's dream, I suppose it must be K3wL or some such, but it's no longer conducive to discussion.
The board let me post anonymously, which is totally for cowards in my opinion!!!
One nice thing about this board is the PM feature allows us all to keep totally private conversations and personal messages out of the view of the general public which will save us all time in the end!
:eek:
loving the new board
By the way, anonymous posts are on, but will be disabled very shortly.
-Theo Pozzy
PDGA Commissioner
PDGA Webmaster
If you read the whole thread you would have read that it is going to be turned off.
testap
Nov 04 2003, 02:44 PM
Whenever I change something in my prefrences, the next time I go back in there It is all defaulted back to original settings.. Anybody elses doing this??
It's going to take some time to get used to. I know when our club changed boards the amount of posting went down significantly for several weeks.
where's the owner's manul???
i gotta lay off the chibba, :cool:/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif ;)
its CHEEBA!!!!!!!!! :cool:
I do NOT like this one bit, you GOT TO JUMP back and forth just to read the darn thing it BITES!! :mad::confused: <font color="green"> </font>
I do not like Green eggs and ham Sam I Am but I like the new board. It's much faster.
Faster is better.
davidbihl
Nov 04 2003, 04:45 PM
man i sure did like the old board... You cant just see an overview of all the new posts on this one can you? <font color="green"> </font>
bbotte
Nov 04 2003, 04:49 PM
This thing [*****]! Burp!
man i sure did like the old board... You cant just see an overview of all the new posts on this one can you? <font color="green"> </font>
If you look at the bottom of the main index is say show posts from last 24hrs, click on that.
underparmike
Nov 04 2003, 05:05 PM
booty, how'd you get that pic from usdgc.com into your profile? i have one on the same website but can't figure it out.
I know the new board is faster but right now it's taking me longer to find what I want to read. Doh!
cdamon
Nov 04 2003, 05:09 PM
I get an out memory error when I try to view the tournaments thread. Anyone else?
The "out of memory" error should be fixed now. Let me know if you see it again.
-Conrad
Howdy folks,
I really like how quick the new board is.
I really hate not being able to see the most recent messages listed out by topic.
I really hate this new look! Can the old style be added to the new board? This is way to cluttered. LL
I really hate this new look! Can the old style be added to the new board? This is way to cluttered. LL
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif Figures, that what I expect from a REDNECK! http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/images/smilies/banana.gif
booty, how'd you get that pic from usdgc.com into your profile? i have one on the same website but can't figure it out.
right click on the pic and hit properties, then highlight the address, cut then paste in the pic area.
http://www.usdgc.com/gallery/early_afternoon_thurs/pages/DSC_0290.gif There is no pic at this address.
Also all the others a *.jpg not *.gif Maybe they pulled your pic?
Lyle O Ross
Nov 04 2003, 06:15 PM
Wow! powerful, yet oh so far beyond my understanding. I do like the signature option.
Is it possible to start a post de novo under a subject created by another user or can you only reply to their topic? :confused:
woodpecker
Nov 04 2003, 06:17 PM
hey Booty,Nina has'nt been banned go to the Oklahoma open thread....
Tried several options, but still am unable to see the threads in reverse order by date. Very time consuming for long lived threads.
Still can't get to my usual ID because my home computer is down, and my home email is down.
Look who's back
Back AGAIN!
http://columbusdiscgolf.com/images/disc%20golf%20superstar.jpg
;)
A few things to consider changing:
The default view for going to a thread is the first page; this makes sense, except that on your favorites list, you're not presented with the option to skip to another page - to get to the last page (presumably where you'd want to be for your favorites), you have to either navigate all the way back to the index, or page forward (114 pages, for traders row). The favorites links should take you to the last page, by default.
Also, it owuld be nice (since you're now storing individual user information) to be able to mark threads read and to give the user the ability to view only unread messages from their favorite threads in treeview. sndg.org 's forum has some of these features - check it out.
Overall: dig it - much more friendly than the previous version.
Thought I got banned for a minute there! Thanks Theo! It works now!
space76
Nov 04 2003, 08:54 PM
Wow, I will have to definitely get used to this.Its nice to be out of the stone age though. <font color="green"> </font>
okcacehole
Nov 04 2003, 09:40 PM
It works for me boys...10x quicker and easier to play with once you get yourself around - boom happy face :)
Keep up the good Work!!!
cdamon
Nov 04 2003, 09:52 PM
Tables should be working now. Some day I'll go back and make them more flexible and robust, and the logic smarter.
<table border="1"><tr><td> a b c d e
</td></tr><tr><td>1 2 3 4 5
</td></tr><tr><td></tr></td></table>
-Conrad
Chris Hysell
Nov 04 2003, 09:54 PM
There are words spelled wrong in the FAQ.
Where am I and how did I get here? HMMMMMMMMM???? <font color="red"> </font>
terrycalhoun
Nov 04 2003, 10:24 PM
Whooo! Much faster from a home dialup. Navigation will be a big learning curve. I love the prospect of sharing photos, especially now that I have a Treo 600 and can shoot pix with my cell phone!
I guess the volume of postings on this thread alone shows that we'll get used to it. I am constantly amazed by the ingenuity and creativity of disc golfers. :D
underparmike
Nov 04 2003, 10:26 PM
uh, anyone know where these stars come from and how can i turn them off? i'm only a colonel not a 5-star general after all.
seewhere
Nov 04 2003, 10:38 PM
Board moderators??? anyone know why the Round Rock thread takes so long to load? it appears to have about the same thread count as this thread and this one pops right up. thanks :confused:
crusher
Nov 04 2003, 11:29 PM
This new board is strange to navigate! :p
Well, I guess we will see if this works. Look for the playout police to question any tournament that is questionable. :D
Just when I got the old discussion board down, Things get moved around. Although I have to add that new added features are cool and seem to be user friendly.
<font color="red"> </font> Awesome Job Guys !!!! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
uh, anyone know where these stars come from and how can i turn them off? i'm only a colonel not a 5-star general after all.
They came from others rating you. I rated you as a 5 star General, I would have given you Commander in Chief if it was allowed. But sadly someone hated on you and you got demoted (some Vaonni freak I bet). If you click on my name you will go to my profile and in the bottom middle is a box to choose how many stars. Hate on me if you like..........you cannot turn them off.
Ok still working on the picture part... any help appreciated... :confused:
Yeah I can't get my SIGNATURE to work correctly
rrps
Nov 05 2003, 02:51 AM
Personally, I like the new board. It will take a little getting used to, but I'm sure a good time will be had by all. Except Forrest, he will probably hit the first post. :eek:
discette
Nov 05 2003, 08:50 AM
Well, I have a photo, but I do not have a website to host it.
Can someone here let me post my photo on their website?
It appears they don't accept photos from a Yahoo Group site.
Suzette
dscmn
Nov 05 2003, 09:47 AM
oh no. i'm in trouble. this looks tough. too many things going on, lights and whistles and bells, oh cruel world. just when i had the other board figured out... :confused: <font color="orange"> </font>
my morning routine will never be the same
seewhere
Nov 05 2003, 11:07 AM
any help on my previous Question ??? thanks
tpozzy
Nov 05 2003, 11:15 AM
Seewhere - the Round Rock thread has 2949 posts at last count! That is an order of magnitude more than this thread, so it's no surprise it takes much longer to load.
While is fun to have threads go on forever (can you say MRV?), it's more practical, from a performance point of view, to create new threads when appropriate. Of course, I'm sure no one will heed my advice on this one... :(
I always dislike new ways of doing things on the web, and this is no exception. I miss being able to see at a glance what people are saying when I first bring up the board. But the speed is nice, and I will get used to the new look.
Yeah, I'm an old grouch, but I'm trying to stay young...
I, also, liked the way you could do a quick scroll down the old board to find threads that you were following that had new posts. Kind of hard to do that here, unless someone has a hint about that.
I like the lightbulb symbol that tells there are new postings, but still have to dig deeper to read them. This board is definitely faster than the old one.
But, as in all things new, we'll just have to explore and learn to use it. Thanks for the hard work in getting it converted.
spartan
Nov 05 2003, 12:31 PM
I pity the new thread!! :D
tpozzy
Nov 05 2003, 01:29 PM
To get close to what everyone is looking for - a quick way to see what new posts there are in their favorite threads, just click on the "Past 24 Hours" (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/dosearch.php?Cat=&Forum=All_Forums&Words=&Match=En tire+Phrase&Old=1day&Limit=25) link at the bottom of the Main Index page. It's sorted decending by date/time, and the best thing is that when you click on a message, it takes you right there, on the right page, rather than starting at the top of the page (or going to any but the last page).
Login, then use the "Mark all read" link up at the top. Next time you log in (really the next time you click the Index or Main Index link) the new messages threads will have a yellow lightbulb in the index and the new threads will have a red number indicating how many new posts.
I just wish there was a "Mark all in this topic as read" feature. If you get in the Tourney Info topic and decide you've read all the ones you want to read and don't want to visit all the Texas Tourney threads in order for them to get marked read, hitting the "Mark all read" link will will mark EVERYTHIGN read, including new posts to the PDGA Issues topic. I know that was confusing, but I think Theo will get it.
Ben get off the CHAMPS http://www.vegsoc.org/youth/packs/nuts.jpg
I asked him out for you once before but he said his http://www.johnmclean.co.nz/images/rooster.jpg
is for http://www.bernalpublishing.com/poultry/essays/images/chicks.jpg
:D
Chris Hysell
Nov 05 2003, 02:26 PM
There are words spelled wrong in the FAQ. :confused:
Always walkin the line..........Pretty funny I had a nice laugh. Let's bring out the old stuff:
Kev 2003:http://www.usdgc.com/gallery/thursday_dawn/images/DSC_0211.jpghttp://www.carrottop.com/ct_pix/off_road_pics_8-11/gp%20photos5.jpg Which is kev? Which is Carrot Top...I can't tell.....
I can host a few pictures on my web site. Email me the pic, and I'll email you the link to it.
ck34
Nov 05 2003, 05:54 PM
Maybe we should consider using some of these Poster handles for our Am division names: Carpal Tunnel, Pooh Bah and Veteran. That leaves us Enthusiast, Addict and Newbie plus others for future downward expansion.
Drama------>Click Me (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=115083&page=0&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1)
Thanks, Kevin! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Thanks, Kevin! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Not Kevin, try again Hottie!
Board issues:
Like everyone else, I would love to see a page that shows recently active threads like the old board. The "last 24 hours" option isn't as good because it shows every post made, not just the thread.
In the default color scheme, when I'm in a forum, I can't tell which threads have new messages since I last read them. I changed to the desert scheme, and it works great. My computer is set to 16.7 million colors, so I'm pretty sure that problem isn't on my end.
Too many forums. Especially each club getting it's own forum. From the main page, in Forum view, there are 31 different listings. Yeah, I can collapse the affiliate Clubs section, but then I can't jump to to any forum there without first expanding that section.
Other than those three issues (really two, since I fixed one of 'em) I like this board much better. Great job guys.
Oh yeah, Nick is an Admin. Who's idea was that?
rhett
Nov 06 2003, 09:58 PM
Is that what the big "A" next to his name is? I thought it was just a warning to readers of his posts.
:cool:
tpozzy
Nov 06 2003, 10:43 PM
Nick has been helping out as an assistant webmaster and moderator since he offered a couple of months ago. Right now, he's in Japan (for at least another week, as I remember). He missed all the fun stuff convering over!
Im not a big fan. It is definately much more difficult to navigate but it seems there are tweaks to be made by the user to make that better. Can we rate Reeses posts as -5 stars and block Keith altogether? :confused:
bigchiz
Nov 07 2003, 07:01 PM
I would like to see the new messages in the last n (24, 48 hours, etc) sorted by topic. Some topics I avoid completely and would like an easy way to skip over those.
all of a sudden today the lines don't wrap and the messages are 3 screens wide... can't seem to change it in settings... any help would be appreciated...
thanks
bob
I beleive that is cause by some idiot, typing line after line, without hitting return(enter).....
that used to happen on the old board too, and definately needs to be tweaked to auto wrap, by Theo.....
PLEASE!!!! :)
MTL21676
Nov 11 2003, 03:36 PM
Theo...
everytime i click "remember me" on the login screen, it never does...i have to login every time i come to the board....suggestions?
That happens to me, when I get to the first page, it shows me not logged in, the second i click on a thread, Im logged in....
Try that, see if that works for you too....
jconnell
Nov 11 2003, 03:44 PM
all of a sudden today the lines don't wrap and the messages are 3 screens wide...
Are you sure you're not looking at a thread in that instance in which a photo has been displayed. I noticed that when someone places a large photo (like the topographical one Brian Graham has on the NDGC thread) in a thread, the margins stretch out to accomodate the photo.
Either that, or someone wrote a really long word or string with no spaces. Like a big ........................... that keeps going forever into the right margin.
Or a third possibility, which I noticed in previewing this post...the quote deal stretches the margins too. :p
--Josh
For some reason I have 5 stars but Chuck Kennedy and Theo has only 4 stars. Is this a personal hygiene rating? [ <font color="purple"> </font>
Pizza God
Nov 11 2003, 10:26 PM
That pic just got 5 stars from me :D
Moderator005
Nov 11 2003, 11:59 PM
For some reason I have 5 stars but Chuck Kennedy and Theo has only 4 stars. Is this a personal hygiene rating?
I couldn't find any info about this in the FAQ and Theo didn't know either. My best guess would be that your rating is the average of all the user ratings submitted for you.
So basically it's a popularity contest, which explains why most users are rated 4 or 5 stars while Nick Kight is rated only one star. :D
keithjohnson
Nov 12 2003, 01:14 AM
conrad or theo....is the 2002 tournament info thread still around somewhere?????
it would be nice if the previous years events were still accessible to reference for dates,payouts,entry fees, discussion,etc....
i went to look up something from last years sw team event and could find nothing from 2002 events........please let me know if it still exists somwhere as the search function shows NOTHING!!!
thanks in advance
keith
rhett
Nov 12 2003, 01:58 AM
Keith, that tournament isn't PDGA sanctioned so I hope Theo won't waste his valuable volunteer time on your request. :)
I'm serious even though I smiled.
discette
Nov 12 2003, 09:20 AM
I see Reese (aka Flyboy) and Dr. Fred only have one star.
WWWorker has two stars.
I also noticed anytime someone is impressed with the fact they have five stars, they plummet rapidly to three or less.
discette
Nov 12 2003, 09:22 AM
By the way, Mark Gator Gates' profile pic is about the best one I have seen so far...and it's not even a good likeness!
tpozzy
Nov 12 2003, 10:02 AM
What makes the page go wide, and prevents scrolling, is posting of images that are very wide. Given that the standard screen width for most people is 1024 pixels, I recommend keeping image posts to a max of 600 pixels high and 800 pixels wide. Note that most of today's digital cameras take high-res photos that are 1920 pixels or wider, so you should definitely resize them (smaller) before uploading them and posting links to them from a message thread.
As far as the problem with having to log in repeatedly, I notice that myself (but not always). It has something to do with the cookies that are created and where/when they are checked. I think one solution is to log in, and then bookmark (in your Favorites list) the page you get to after you're logged in. Then if you just go to that URL each time, I don't think you'll need to log in every time. We'll look into it further.
The other problem with making the screen too wide can be created by posting a long url, or other text with no spaces. There's a thread where someone posted thankyouthankyouthankyou over and over, and it stretched it out.
Right Jim.....pictures are understandable, but long text strings do it too....even when they put spaces between their words......
Grrrrrrrrrrr.............
:p
but long text strings do it too....even when they put spaces between their words
No they don't. If there are spaces, it automatically wraps at the end of the line. At least on my browser it does.
keithjohnson
Nov 12 2003, 03:06 PM
Keith, that tournament isn't PDGA sanctioned so I hope Theo won't waste his valuable volunteer time on your request. :)
I'm serious even though I smiled.
there were alot of tournaments in 2002 besides that one rhett!!!.....
don't go starting trouble again :D
Trying my best, but it's never too much: Well, I guess this new and 'improved' board isn't going to go away :confused:...can somebody please tell this quasi-neoLuddite where the formating info is?!?
Happy discing...meat
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OK Jim, it must have been on a page, where someones pic, already stretched it, or perhaps in it your personal settings, and the person has it set to stupid numbers....
Maybe ill try that, too... :D
:confused:...can somebody please tell this quasi-neoLuddite where the formating info is?!?
Here (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/faq.php?Cat=#html)
neonnoodle
Nov 12 2003, 09:02 PM
Forget "addict" try "carpal tunnel" ! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
I got your carpal tunnel right here, Nicki! :cool:
Maybe someday, if I die or go away, you can achieve my level of true greatness in posting.
Of course, if they counted words, wasted or otherwise, you'd be my role model. :D
Is there an easy way to get around this problem? --
When I go to a thread I want to read, if it is a long-standing thread that has hundreds of posts, it will take me to the very first page and then I have to scroll to page 20, then 30, then 40, etc. if I want to get to the most recent posts (which may be on page 101). Is there a way to either have the most recent posts be the first place the board takes me or have a link to the first and last page (i.e. page 101) rather than only links to the next 10 or 20 pages at a time?
I have my preferences set to default sort by descending date, and it works when I go to the "DISCussion" link, but when I go to the "My Home" link and then to the "Favorite Threads" portion it sorts every thread from the beginning post no matter what default sort order I try to set. I could click "view all" but I live where I have a very slow phone connection (28K) and so it takes too long to use that mode. If only there were a 'first' and 'last' page link at the top of each page of a given thread topic ...
Thanks Jim; it took a few tries, but I patched through...can you also tell me how you got around the 'requirement' a user name be at least six characters? ...I'd like to "unskew" my name...looks like I'm a shish*kebab, as is...
Pizza God
Nov 13 2003, 03:41 AM
Is there a way to either have the most recent posts be the first place the board takes me or have a link to the first and last page (i.e. page 101) rather than only links to the next 10 or 20 pages at a time?
Either click on the page numbers under the thread name, or be only click on the name if there are red numbers next to the numer of replies, it takes me to the most recent post. (I have to be loged on for this to work)
can you also tell me how you got around the 'requirement' a user name be at least six characters?
Had no idea there was a 6-character requirement. Maybe Theo/Conrad bypassed that when they transferred my account over from the old board.
[QUOTE]
can you also tell me how you got around the 'requirement' a user name be at least six characters?[QUOTE]
i forgot my password and tried to set up a new user name and it wouldn't let me go with less than 6 characters. when i found my password it gives me my username from the old board which was less than six letters. I guess the only way to have a short username is if it was 'grandfathered' in from the old board (?)
[QUOTE]
can you also tell me how you got around the 'requirement' a user name be at least six characters?[QUOTE]
i forgot my password and tried to set up a new user name and it wouldn't let me go with less than 6 characters. when i found my password it gives me my username from the old board which was less than six letters. I guess the only way to have a short username is if it was 'grandfathered' in from the old board (?)
Well, I had a 4 letter one, grandfathered in, but changed it, since I had already changed it, on the old board, to this....wonder if it woudl let me switch back.....
Hrmmmmmmmm.............
;)
I wonder how you have 1400 posts..... http://www.columbusracing.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif http://www.columbusracing.com/ubb/graemlins/nonono.gif
I wonder how you have 1400 posts..... http://www.columbusracing.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif http://www.columbusracing.com/ubb/graemlins/nonono.gif
Well, I just have alot of time on my hands, while at work....rarely do I ever post on weekends, or form home.
And have a comment for most anything, but I DO NOT run up the post count, just to see the numbers, hell, 1300+ of those were long before it was even tracked......
I could give a rats ***, and was quite shocked, to see how many posts I had, when Theo switched us over to this board....
We were testing a theory, on why the pages got extremely wide, on certain pages, or certain threads, if you had payed attention.....
I just found out one can't write b-u-t-t on the board without being censored...
...now what I want to know is, did somebody with entirely TOO MUCH time on their hands put some kind of 'filter' into the programming to weed out certain words which wouldn't even offend a sundayschool teacher?!?
Or is somebody with REALLY to much time on their hands going through and committing this sin of censorship consciously?!?
cdamon
Nov 14 2003, 03:12 PM
It happens automatically, and it's the same list of words from the old board that get replaced. I'm lobbying for it to get reduced, but it's not a high priority.
-Conrad
...I'm not real happy with the news an innocent, perfectly viable english word is worthy of repression :(, but thanks for the response/explanation...
cdamon
Nov 14 2003, 08:14 PM
can you also tell me how you got around the 'requirement' a user name be at least six characters?
That's been reduced to four characters. Six was the original default for the product.
-Conrad
lowe
Nov 15 2003, 02:36 AM
Although this new board has some good points (like being able to mark favorite threads) it has some fatal flaws that make in almost unusable. These have undoubtedly alrready been discussed but that's one of the problems!
1) In threaded form I can only read one post at a time instead of 30 on the old board. With my pokey dial up connection I don't have the time to waste on this. Or if iI choose "flat" I have to wade through 20 or so pages which I also don't have time for.
2) When you check recent posts it gives them to you all mixed up in chrono order and you only see the very most recent. You'd have to wade through lots of pages to see if what you're interested in is there. The old feature of "New since I last checked" was indispensible to keeping up with what's new.
3) The old board let you see all the new posts ordered by topic so you can easily skip the irrelevant stuff. There's now way to do that on the new board.
4) The search engine stinks. It's even hard to find threads that you know are there. you also can't search by thread title. A good search engine is indispensible to finding the info iI want.
There's no way I'm even going to read through this whole thread one by one to see if these issues have been addressed.
Conrad, can you send your reply via e-mail to
[email protected]? For the reasons above that's my only hope of learning how to get around these problems.
Lowe
I do like the "Who's online" link.
Right now it's me and one anonymous lurker.
Having a wild and crazy Friday night doing a telphone switch upgrade.
Sad sad sad.
Should be done around dawn.
Dawn patrol at Vacaville if it's not raining too hard.
Currently just me online.
I RULE THE PDGA DISCussion.
lowe
Nov 15 2003, 11:23 AM
OK, I'll admit that part of my problem was not knowing enough of how to use this board. It took a while, but I did learn some things to make some changes that make the board work better for me in some ways:
1) I'll probably use the "Favorite threads" tool to keep track of what I'm interested in. It's still too tedious to read the new posts.
2) Using "flat" rather than "threaded" works lots better. If you click "view all" you can read the whole thread at one time after it downloads.
3) I set my number of posts to view at 99 (the max) so that I get the most per page.
lowe
Nov 15 2003, 11:37 AM
The threaded view seems to have potential but only if used assiduously. But I doubt if people will ever take the time to use it in the best way because people don't have time and we're all lazy.
One way to make it work better is to change the subject line so that the flow of conversation can be followed better.
For example, checking this thread in "threaded" view is worthless because most people read in "flat" view and just add their post on at the end. Since there are no changes of subject you have no idea what someone might have said.
On the old board seeing the first line of a post was the best way to see if it was worth checking out. But in "threaded" view there's no way to do that. There's no way that I'm ever going to click through a thread one message at a time with my slow dial up connection having to reload the next post.
If there could be a way to view the first line of people's posts that would really help.
Also, when people post pictures it really slows down the loading time for us dial up users.
well maybe you should get a life and get real connection get comcast and you will not have that problem :D
Wow I had my first post deleted my admin's! Sweet! I am finishing my way down the dark path..........I'ts only a mater of time........ http://www.columbusracing.com/ubb/graemlins/banned.gif
discette
Nov 16 2003, 08:50 AM
Lowe said:
Also, when people post pictures it really slows down the loading time for us dial up users.
You have the ability to turn off the pictures with the profiles if you don't want to see them. :)
lowe
Nov 17 2003, 10:37 PM
Lowe said:
Also, when people post pictures it really slows down the loading time for us dial up users.
You have the ability to turn off the pictures with the profiles if you don't want to see them. :)
Actually, I wasn't talking about the pictures in people's profiles. I was talking about when people put a picture in the message they post. (E.g.- the famous Nina Action figure [although it was nice to see it])
Moderator005
Nov 19 2003, 12:38 AM
My old eyes (just turned 31) have trouble reading the number of new replies (that I haven't read yet) under replies. The dark red parenthesis and number contained inside against the dark green background are very difficult to see; can you give some thought into changing that color scheme?
Moderator005
Nov 29 2003, 03:58 PM
bump for Conrad
Jeff, which theme are you using? It seems worse on desert, but not as bad on Green Day. I find it's much worse on my laptop compared to my CRT at home, too.
lowe
Dec 01 2003, 11:07 PM
To be honest, the Search function on this new board stinks. It's barely useable. There is no way to narrow your request to search by title or message text. Also, it consistently gives horrible results. Searching on a phrase never works. For example, I just did a search for "Bull City" which is in several threads. I tried it 2 different times in 2 different ways, and it came back with no results. What up with that? And when you can get results they are given back as individual posts, so it takes forever to find what you might want. Can this be fixed?
cdamon
Dec 02 2003, 04:18 PM
That's odd. I just went to the search page, typed "Bull City" into the box, and got back 9 posts, including yours above (next time I'll presumably get 10, including this one). Remember, by default it searches posts made within the last week. You can change that.
It's possible that you accidentally selected a forum that didn't have any matches. I'll make "All Forums" the selected default.
Searching subjects only is a good idea. I'll add that as an option.
There's no way to return results other than as individual posts. I'm not sure what else it would do.
I've noticed occasionally that the link doesn't take you to the right post. If I can reproduce that behavior, I'll look into it.
-Conrad
cdamon
Dec 02 2003, 04:56 PM
My old eyes (just turned 31) have trouble reading the number of new replies (that I haven't read yet) under replies. The dark red parenthesis and number contained inside against the dark green background are very difficult to see; can you give some thought into changing that color scheme?
Are you using a different stylesheet? With the standard one, the number of new posts is legible to me, it's light red on a light or medium blue background. It might also be your monitor. You could try using a different stylesheet (under My Home).
-Conrad
lowe
Dec 02 2003, 07:13 PM
Conrad,
Please forgive my harsh words about the search function. I know you've been putting in tons of time working on this board, and I really appreciate it.
First, I'll confess that the problem with searching was my own ineptitude. I didn't highlight anything, especially search "All" so I got no results. It was my own stupidity. Ah, confession... it's good for the soul but bad for the reputation.
It would be great if you can put in a search by subject. Just copy the way the old board does it. You can Look in: subject, author, or text of messages. Most often I'm looking for a particular thread name, so searching by subject is what I use most.
I also like the way the old board displayed search results. When you search by subject it only returns the title of the threads that match. It's very neat and uncluttered.
Even if you search in text of messages the results come back threaded by subject line. With this board results seem to just come back chronologically and they're all mixed up.
Conrad, thanks for your patient reply to my remarks. It was helpful.
That's odd. I just went to the search page, typed "Bull City" into the box, and got back 9 posts, including yours above (next time I'll presumably get 10, including this one). Remember, by default it searches posts made within the last week. You can change that.
It's possible that you accidentally selected a forum that didn't have any matches. I'll make "All Forums" the selected default.
Searching subjects only is a good idea. I'll add that as an option.
There's no way to return results other than as individual posts. I'm not sure what else it would do.
I've noticed occasionally that the link doesn't take you to the right post. If I can reproduce that behavior, I'll look into it.
-Conrad
lowe
Dec 02 2003, 07:22 PM
Conrad et. al.,
On the main page under "View Recent messages" the "New to me" function sounds promising. But whenever I click it all I get is a totally blank page. Am I doing anything wrong?
Does it make any difference that I use Netscape 7.02 as my browser? I have it set to accept all cookies.
lowe
Dec 02 2003, 07:39 PM
Under "My Home" there is a section called "Post Reminders". What is this and how do you use it?
Nick described it as "Your Post Reminders � where you can set reminders that you want to reply to certain posts in certain threads." Is that correct?
neonnoodle
Dec 10 2003, 02:34 PM
You can really get your voyeur groove on watching what everyone is doing in the Who�s Online screen. Check it out. :D
LouMoreno
Dec 10 2003, 02:45 PM
Perv! :)
ching_lizard
Dec 10 2003, 02:50 PM
I don't know about Nick's voyueristic tendencies, but I think it's pretty cool to watch to see what the hot topics are and to get a sense of how busy the board is...
I personally like watching to see the user counts...20 Registered 28 unregistered. I'm always totalling them up for curiosity's sake. I think 78 has been the most I've witnessed so far...
I find that sometimes the best way to surf is by seeing Who's Online....can just click on that thread and check it out!
By doing this I've found some older threads that someone is checking out....and that's always fun, especially b/c you don't have to do the legwork to find it in the first place.
I don't like the private option - what's the big deal?
Agreed......Anonymous posters are %#$$IES!!!!!!!
:p
neonnoodle
Dec 16 2003, 04:15 PM
I'm wondering why there are so many "Anons". It's easy enough to get a User ID and you can still set everything to stealth mode. Yeah, yeah the admin can still see what you are up to, but we can do that with your IP anyway. There are just so many "free" and "cool" features for folks with IDs.
dannyreeves
Dec 16 2003, 04:16 PM
why is anonymous posting allowed?
neonnoodle
Dec 16 2003, 04:17 PM
Why do you think it shouldn't be?
why is anonymous posting allowed?
It SHOULD be disallowed.......lurking fine, posting no....
:mad:
Not sure if anon posting is enabled or not...
rhett
Dec 16 2003, 07:11 PM
Are you trying to prove why it shouldn't be allowed?
cdamon
Dec 16 2003, 08:55 PM
Anonymous posting isn't allowed. We had it turned on for a day or so after the conversion so that people who couldn't log into their accounts still had a way to give feedback.
Anonymous reading of the board is allowed.
Also, if you're worried about people seeing what you're doing via "Who's Online", there are options in "My Home" to not show what forum you're on, or to not show you at all.
-Conrad
rhett
Dec 16 2003, 09:03 PM
With posts like the ones from the anonymous user named "gurusucks" showing up today, I would have to say that you are wrong and that anonymous posting is alive and well here.
cdamon
Dec 16 2003, 09:53 PM
By "anonymous" I meant someone who's not logged in. This person created an account, logged in, and posted. They're anonymous in that they didn't provide much info when they registered. Even if we required it, they could give bogus info.
-Conrad
eddie_ogburn
Dec 16 2003, 10:45 PM
The new titles are the shiznit! I'm a weighted mini!!! :p
rhett
Dec 17 2003, 01:20 AM
By "anonymous" I meant someone who's not logged in. This person created an account, logged in, and posted. They're anonymous in that they didn't provide much info when they registered. Even if we required it, they could give bogus info.
In practice there is no difference. We absolutely have anonymous posters.
neonnoodle
Dec 17 2003, 10:54 AM
Conrad,
Correct me if I'm wrong, but we do have their email, which is confirmed by having their password sent to it, and their IP Address, which admittedly can be variable, so jugheads can be more effectively banned with this new board.
I think in the history of the board only 3 or 4 folks have ever been banned. That's pretty good...
Nick
Moderator005
Dec 17 2003, 12:08 PM
Jeff, which theme are you using? It seems worse on desert, but not as bad on Green Day. I find it's much worse on my laptop compared to my CRT at home, too.
Okay, duh! I just figured out that you can change your theme to different color schemes. 'Infopop' is nice, because you have the parentheses and number showing new messages in red against a light grey background.
'Green Day' and 'Black and Blue' are awful!
just wondering if anyone else is hearing the same comments that i am. everywhere i go, it seems folks i talk to who used to post and/or read the board a lot are now really turned off. i know we've all tried to make positive comments about its power and bells and whistles, but let's face it, its not as easy or user friendly as it used to be.
i think this has already resulted in a reduced number of posts and an increased level of apathy. heck, its already reduced to about 4 or 5 the number of threads that i take the time to keep up with.
not trying to fight, just curious if others who spend a lot of time around other golfers have been hearing similar complaints.
me, i'd give up the cutesy pics and titles, even the pm feature for more and better communication with my fellow posters. hope i don't get banned for saying so. :)
and while i'm at it, the new titles are cheesy as hell, not to mention less than accurate. i'm a lot closer to carpal tunnel than i am to a long driver. and, i don't know if its a good idea to use the word lid around disc golfers, what with the whole image perception thing. :)
Ya, bottle cap...whats that supposed to mean :mad::mad:*&69&^%, thats gonna get me warned again. :D
tpozzy
Dec 18 2003, 10:26 PM
In watching the server stats, the new board is getting as much traffic as ever. I'm sure we'll lose some posters, and even some of the old regulars, but now at least, we have a system than can handle future growth and flurries of posting activity without shutting the server down.
In watching the server stats, the new board is getting as much traffic as ever.
i'm sorry theo, but i find that hard to swallow. got any numbers?
I'm sure we'll lose some posters, and even some of the old regulars,
i know for a fact that its already happened.
but now at least, we have a system than can handle future growth and flurries of posting activity without shutting the server down.
i know all that, and i'm not even disputing it. i was just asking if anyone else out there had been hearing the same comments at gatherings of golfers that i have.
what about you, theo? you hearing anything like what i am? at all?
discette
Dec 19 2003, 07:27 AM
Yes Mark, I too have heard the same comments from several golfers in this area. These folks are not computer illiterate. They just don't want to invest the time to learn a new set of skills required to get the most out of this board.
When I was in highschool, a lid had nothing to do with Frisbees. While I am old enough to be "Old School", I still think "lid" is a drug reference to many people. I like the list that was posted yesterday.
Mark, the old board was a DINOSAUR of message boards.
This new one, while taking a little getting used to, is FAR SUPERIOR.
I still cant believe some people think this is "hard to find" the thread they want to read....
I bet any average 3rd grader, would have no problems with it...
:o
Chris Hysell
Dec 19 2003, 10:04 AM
I know a "baby" who doesn't like it and won't use it. Oh well, that leaves more space for me but less spelling corrections.
At least you're not a lurker.... ;)
Like we give a **** about some whiney arsed baby, who refuses to post....
I dont likethe new board, I am boycotting it!
LMAO!!!!
I have to agree that it is hard to find the latest updates across the whole board. The old tree view with single line views of the latest posts was much quicker. I am really suprised this software does not allow a similar tree view.
rhett
Dec 19 2003, 01:57 PM
I much preferred the old "search for new posts" capability, but I am absolutely all for whatever makes the volunteers lives easier in regards to message board maintenance.
Three cheers for the PDGA volunteers! :)
BTW, Marty tried to move us to new style message boards several times but always gave in to whining and went back to the old one. It's not like Theo was the first one to try and make life easier on the volunteers.
neonnoodle
Dec 19 2003, 02:10 PM
Some modifications to make it easier to scan the entire board for new threads and posts are in the works. Even without them, I have been able to get my "fix" utilizing a combination of the Main Index, Who's Online, and My Favorites in My Home features.
There is simply no way that we are ever going to go back to the old board.
larrywhitson
Dec 19 2003, 02:50 PM
Oh well, that leaves more space for me but less spelling corrections.
......or.....
fewer spelling corrections
:o
I don't think that Mark was requesting a move back to the old board (but that may be what he was doing). I certainly didn't request that. I just would like the option of a tree view of every new post since either I last checked them or the last 24 or 48 hours.
riverdog
Dec 19 2003, 05:59 PM
I heartily second omb-fl on the tree view - since my last post or last 24 hours or last 48 hours. Almost any variation of the above would be more user friendly than the present version. I am not incredibly computer literate, nor am I an idiot. Given enough time I will eventually figure out 10% of the whiz bang features this new board offers and will use 1% of that, assuming a tree view is eventually offered. And, yup, every single time I have been amongst a bunch of golfers since the board has changed I hear negative comments primarily related to difficulty of tracking down specific topics or threads. Most of those difficulties are rectifiable IF you know how to use the freaking board. As someone in a post I will probably never find again said (I'm paraphrasing since I can't find it)"Most of us could learn to use the new board if we had the time to devote to it". I don't. Most of us don't. Will I be taking my toys and runninng back home. No. I will continue to try to scuff through this thing. With any luck I'll come out the other side.
gary's absolutely right (as he often is, but don't let it go to your head). i wasn't requesting anything but a survey of opinions.
if i was doing anything else, it was championing those now silent voices who's frustration with the new board keep them from expressing the sentiments they've expressed to me in person.
further, riverdog's post was so well stated that i can't think of a single thing to add. get out of my head, dude! :)
i too am not taking my toys and going elsewhere, i'm just frustrated and interested in what other folks think.
i noticed theo hasn't answered the questions i put to him. i'm still just as interested in what he has to say on the matter, i just don't want him to feel like defending the new board is necessary. i do understand the motivating factors behind the change and the proposed upsides.
tpozzy
Dec 19 2003, 07:31 PM
Mark,
Because of the change in navigation, you can't exactly compare the server traffic from before to now. However, the traffic has gone up substantially, and that can only be due to the message board. Of course, you can argue that the extra clicks needed to search for new posts on this board lead to that increase, but the number of visitors is up also, and that isn't dependent on how many pages you go to.
Here are the stats to date:
<table border="1"><tr><td> Month</td><td>Unique visitors</td><td>Number of visits</td><td>Pages</td><td>Hits</td><td>Bandwidth
</td></tr><tr><td>Jan-03</td><td>28224</td><td>83791</td><td>526446</td><td>2015862</td><td>19.40 GB
</td></tr><tr><td>Feb-03</td><td>30489</td><td>83152</td><td>556923</td><td>2187497</td><td>20.67 GB
</td></tr><tr><td>Mar-03</td><td>37178</td><td>102520</td><td>645042</td><td>2783104</td><td>23.89 GB
</td></tr><tr><td>Apr-03</td><td>41873</td><td>112638</td><td>784381</td><td>3355944</td><td>27.99 GB
</td></tr><tr><td>May-03</td><td>49518</td><td>129658</td><td>903764</td><td>4028356</td><td>30.76 GB
</td></tr><tr><td>Jun-03</td><td>51168</td><td>128679</td><td>871299</td><td>4048751</td><td>30.44 GB
</td></tr><tr><td>Jul-03</td><td>55169</td><td>140683</td><td>962211</td><td>4451658</td><td>38.72 GB
</td></tr><tr><td>Aug-03</td><td>56387</td><td>139836</td><td>879522</td><td>4387614</td><td>34.78 GB
</td></tr><tr><td>Sep-03</td><td>37977</td><td>95203</td><td>577602</td><td>2778291</td><td>24.60 GB
</td></tr><tr><td>Oct-03</td><td>32280</td><td>84434</td><td>646483</td><td>2979850</td><td>29.40 GB
</td></tr><tr><td>Nov-03</td><td>33196</td><td>99775</td><td>997286</td><td>5412041</td><td>45.45 GB
</td></tr><tr><td>Dec-03</td><td>19754</td><td>57654</td><td>529925</td><td>3204455</td><td>35.39 GB
</td></tr><tr><td>Total</td><td>473213</td><td>1258023</td><td>8880884</td><td>41633423</td><td>361.48 GB
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>
switzerdan
Dec 19 2003, 08:22 PM
I didn't like the new board when it premiered. After having looked (lurked) for a while. I decided to spend some time this evening learning about it. I don't post that often, but it seems like once you spend the time figuring some things out the new board is relatively easy to use. Of course, there are some features that are less convenient. But, it's like that with every step forward.
switzerdan
Dec 19 2003, 08:27 PM
I do have a question. Once I've clicked on a post icon, I can change it to another icon. Can I change it back to no icon? If so, how? If not, is there any significance to any of them - are there certain ones for certain types of posts?
ching_lizard
Dec 19 2003, 10:35 PM
I don't think so SwitzerDan...if you leave your mouse cursor over one of them, it pops up a little box that gives you a description of the emotion it's supposed to convey. I just pick the one that seems to be in keeping with the theme of what I want to say...too bad they don't have one of a big, steaming pile of brown stuff. :D
ching_lizard
Dec 19 2003, 10:51 PM
Martyr - in response to your survey of opinions, I agree with you in that I don't like it as well as the Discusware version.
Theo, was the old version running on a My-SQL platform or was it the indexed flat-file edition? I know that Discware has a version that runs on My-SQL...if not, then I wonder if it would run better than the old version...?
(Start out by always saying thank you volunteers)
Yes Mark, I have heard many of the same comments. As a matter of fact, I think Cong is the only person that likes this board more that I PERSONALY know. With the old last 24-hour function, I could scroll down and see what had been posted on various topics in like two seconds. Now, I have to scroll through pages of stuff unless I want to use the main index (Which I personally do not prefer). Perhaps this board is better for people who only look once a day or week???
As a TD of many events, I worry that people who are trying to find chatter about the events will have a hard time finding it and it will hurt attendance. Only time will tell.
I am glad to hear they are still working on tweaks. I hope some of them will make it easier for my personal viewing. :D
(right back to the volunteers - - Thanks! We appreciate you even when we suggest different things that could be done :))
Also, I don�t care for the post counts being shown. It just encourages posts that waste my time, your time and bandwidth. The names you earn as your post count goes higher seem kind of cheesy imo as well � wow, I am full of compliments tonight lmao