I am increadibly new to the sport, have only been on 1 course 2 times.
My main question is the Max Flight frisby made by Wham-O (original frisbee disk) 150 grams a legal disk golf disk. The reason I ask is below.
I baught a 3 disk set made by innova which includes Aviar - putt and approach, leopard and shark disks. I can drive pretty far with the shark, and generally like it, for shots I can keep reasonably low to the ground. This disk really likes to pull right very badly on it's decent. I just happened to have my Max Flight disk which I throw often recreationally with friends, so I figured I'd do some comparison throws. Between the shark and the max flight, the shark has better distance, but the max flight stays straight instead of taking the hook. I've been using the Max flight for shots where I have to get some height (like to get over a tree) since It remains straight.
B4 I get too dependent on it, I wanted to make sure it's a legal disk. Also, is the shark known for hooking badly? Is there a better disk for me to try?
b4 someone asks, I better say that I throw "normally" not sidearm.
yes
http://www.pdga.com/discs.php?select_id=8
I am increadibly new to the sport, have only been on 1 course 2 times.
My main question is the Max Flight frisby made by Wham-O (original frisbee disk) 150 grams a legal disk golf disk.
Yes, the MaxFlight is PDGA approved. the full list of PDA approved discs may be found here (http://www.pdga.com/discs.php). (How it got approval, given its two-piece construction, is hard to fathom, but it did.)
I baught a 3 disk set made by innova which includes Aviar - putt and approach, leopard and shark disks. I can drive pretty far with the shark, and generally like it, for shots I can keep reasonably low to the ground. This disk really likes to pull right very badly on it's decent.
From your description of your discs' flight, I presume you throw with your left hand. The shark is low speed overstable (+2), so you should expect it to fade to the right (assuming you're a lefty) at the end of the flight, but it should not be a hard fade. Since your post suggests that you are getting the hard fade on high throws, it is possible that you are getting the nose of the disc up or are not generating enough speed and spin to keep the disc on line. [FYI: a disc is considered low speed stable (0) if stays straight throughout its flight. For a right hander throwing backhand, an overstable disc will turn/fade to the left, while an understable disc will turn/fade right; for a lefty, the directions are reversed. A positive stability rating indicates that a disc is overstable; a negative rating indicates that a disc is understable. The greater the absolute value of the stability rating (think jr. high/middle school math), the more it will turn/fade, so a disc with a stability rating of +5 will turn/fade farther than a disc rated +2, while a disc with a stability of -5 will turn/fade farther than a disc rated -2.]
In terms of less overstable alternatives to the Shark, I would suggest the Classic Roc, XD, Aviar Putt and Approach, Aero, or Hydra (all Innova), or the Breeze, Comet, Stratus, or Storm (all Discraft).
Dick
Sep 09 2004, 11:39 PM
or a cobra or panther. a light 150-160 cobra is probably one of the best learner disc, but the shark is a GREAT beginner disc, especially in the lighter weights.
vwkeepontruckin
Sep 10 2004, 12:55 AM
I've found that Auroa MS's make good beginner distance discs, and a Sabre is a great transition from long midranges to distance drivers.
the shark is a GREAT beginner disc, especially in the lighter weights.
I'll 2nd that!
From your description of your discs' flight, I presume you throw with your left hand.
I am in fact a right handed... sort of weird. I wonder if my throwing the disk normally and not sidearm would make the ratings reversed soft of like
left handed sidearm = right handed normal
right handed sidarm = left handed normal
Now that I've read some how-to's on sidearm throwing, I'll probably give it a more of a chance for my off-the-T shots.
I'll try to report if the flight charactoristics of my shark change for my sidearm throwing.
kingrat6931
Sep 10 2004, 08:26 AM
Keep on throwin' Dude. :DThe more you thow your Shark, the more you will be able to control it. Stay with the slower plastic until you gain experience in your game. Stay away from the high speed drivers and such until you can control yer slow stuff. Practice more in an open field. Try different grips and ALWAYS ask a pro for tips. Check out my site for further details.
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cromwell
Sep 10 2004, 09:44 AM
teststrips, are you using the right terminology? if you throw "normal" (backhand) as a righty then your discs will naturally fall off to the left... the disc will spin clockwise from that release. If you usually have the discs fall off to the right and you're throwing righty, it sounds like you ARE throwing sidearm (a "flick" or "forehand" throw), where your arm is out to your side and the disc will spin counter-clockwise as opposed to a backhand which comes across the front of your body.
your assumption is correct though that throwing RHBH (right handed backhand, if you havent seen the term before) is the same as throwing a lefty flick, and LHBH is the same flight rotation as a righty flick.
Dick
Sep 10 2004, 10:13 AM
or, if you are throwing right handed back hand, and the disc goes right you may be releasing it at an anhyzer angle(left edge up, right edge down) or the disc is just flipping on you and you may want to try a heavier or more stable disc
or, if you are throwing right handed back hand, and the disc goes right you may be releasing it at an anhyzer angle(left edge up, right edge down) or the disc is just flipping on you and you may want to try a heavier or more stable disc
Or the Shark has been beat a couple too many times when you hit it against trees!!! :D
I baught a 3 disk set made by innova which includes Aviar - putt and approach, leopard and shark disks.
frist of all welcome to the sport :D
2nd thier call disc not disk :eek:
but to answer your question disks arn't legal :D
cromwell
Sep 10 2004, 01:53 PM
good point about the anhyzer drevil. since he said "falling off right" i assumed he was talking about the disc losing speed and falling off, not turning over which he may have meant. i dont think so, but it's a possibility as well.
Blarg
Sep 10 2004, 05:21 PM
I also assumed he was throwing left-handed.
All my mid-range discs will turn over to the right (RHBH) if I throw them flat. Throwing with a bit of hyzer angle at release
makes them fly much straighter and is a good learning tool for throwing any disc.
Also, if you can put more spin on the disc, it will tend to fly straighter and with less flutter.
morgan
Sep 10 2004, 09:45 PM
Legal or illegal, you will lose if you are within 100 miles of even a fuzzy photograph of a max flight disc. You'd be better off throwing a lid from a jar of Helmans.
Unless you learn the Chicken Wing throw from Morgan, then you can be one of the world's greatest.
Hellmann's. :o
AKA Best Foods, West of the Rockies.
Dang, aren't spelling errors annoying?!?
:D