i came in to posession of a bottle of "professional dye for discs". i tried it on a soft plastic disc it doesnt take. am i doing some thing wrong need help please

Dying only works on X, Z, CE, KC (non aviar or Roc) Champion, ProLine (non Rhyno), JK (non Aviar), and SE plastic. Hope this helps.

It also works on Gateway H and E but not quite as well.

Oh yeah it also works on Lightning Prostyle, but hopefully you won't have to throw that shizzle!

swamppink:

'Professional dye for discs'??????????? :confused:

Where'dja gettit? How much? Did you get it to work?

In my experience, you can pretty much dye anything but dx plastic and apparently the rubbery putter type plastics.

Is a JK Aviar technically NOT DX plastic? Because that will accept dye, however you might not like the results: Dyed JK Aviar (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=223311&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1) ...that's post # 226472, if you don't go right to it. That was a beat disc to begin with. And, the results are spotty...that 'blue' was supposed to be black!

...further in that same thread, one can see examples of EXPERT dyejobs!! :D :p

I don't know about the Aviars. I've never tried dying a putter.
I've just heard that the dx plastic won't dye well.
I've dyed SE, Candy (any candy) and Z-plastics and the dye worked well. Also dyed one disc that is probably CE and that worked too. Not 100% sure if it's CE, as it was a 'ghost' disc that I found at Whittier or Eldorado. Feels like CE.
Discs don't look so great, but that part's my fault! :p

"Eldorado" is the restaurant across the street from locally world famous El Dorado Disc Golf Course...was it under one of the booths?!? :D:D:D

...just kidding! Any dyejobs worth posting? I'm still in my procrastination mode. :confused:

Well, I've got some very unusual dye jobs. Worth posting?
That's debatable. Besides which, I don't know how to post pictures in here yet. :confused:

You're right it was at El Dorado. I did find some discs in the Eldorado restaurant, but they were small and in the urinals, so I left 'em. :D

A-heheheh, a-heheh, uggggggggggggh.

...no need to debate my friend; I'd be quite happy to inform you how awful they might be, once posted! :cool:[see PM for instructions]

Trust me, they pretty much suck. Except for two of 'em that came out interesting. Certainly never seen anything remotely like them.
I did some simple stripes that look good and a very organic looking thing where I dyed a clear disc on both sides that almost looks intentional. :D
Did another one with a 'yes no' meter on it.
Did half hot pink half jet black. Best thing I can say about that design is it's a good roller. :D
I still have a lot of trouble with the dye bleeding under the contact paper or tape, but I've yet to try the cutting the paper after putting it on the disc technique.
Currently experimenting with pin-striping.

what I use to stop the bleeding under the contact paper is to backward mask so to speak.... I cover the disc with tape, transfer the design to the tape (I use blue painters tape as it seems to leave the least amount of glue residue).... next I very carfully cut along my lines with a xacto knife (you gotta be real carful cuz there are people who will whine that your disc is not legal cuz it has a scratch on it) then I paint decorative candle wax up to the masking tape.... let dry and remove the tape and I am ready to dye the disc.... now I will be the first to admit that this method is very time consuming so that kind of prohibits any use of it for monetary gain, but if you want to make some kick [*****] dyes for yourself then this method cant be beat.... acetone/rit dye mixes that slide under contact paper like it wasnt there will yield zero bleed with this method... it is sturdy enough to dye the same area many times over without failure....

What is 'decorative candle wax?' Do you have to melt it or is it liquid? :p

it is a thick liquid.... it is called Candle DecoPaint ..... I used to be able to get it at Hobby Lobby but mine does not sell it anymore... the website on the bottle is www.uchida.com (http://www.uchida.com) ... I apply it to the disc using a small paint brush.... many times I am pushing the wax with the paint brush up against blue painters masking tape.... I would say that it would be extremly hard to do the designs that I do without this way....

steve_parker:
Hey thanks! Great info!
I am always grateful to people who reveal effective techniques!
Not to point any fingers (DrDyed), but there are some experts who refuse to share any of their knowledge.

Here's something I just tried with successful results: Auto pinstriping tape for masking. Just finished a disc with a very simple stripe pattern and the dye did not bleed under the tape at all. I used worm-dye and fairly straight lines, but you can curve the very narrow strips of tape into many patterns.

Again, thanks! :D

Not to point any fingers (DrDyed)



WEAK Blarg! Dont diss a man cause he does not respond to your request for help. Most dyers have learned by teaching themselves- why would they want to offer precious info for free? They have spent countless time and materials learning, and you want it just handed to you??? Maybe if you did not act like that, people would be more willing to share.

just my 2� - take it for what it is worth.

I like to see this support also. We dyers have learned through trial and error. We expect to see the same for any new dyer to learn the same way. It's also funny when you see complainers on this forum that seem to want to be UNKNOWN in there user profile. What, are you afraid that we might know you huh Blarg?

Here are some dyes I did through TRIAL and ERROR, I'll give you one hint the discs below were all dyed by Rit Dye. Try and figure that out now. haha.

Adding another 2� to the pot - it's worth allot more now.

http://www.widiscgolf.com/mkdye/sample1.jpg http://www.widiscgolf.com/mkdye/sample2.jpg http://www.widiscgolf.com/mkdye/sample3.jpg http://www.widiscgolf.com/mkdye/sample4.jpg http://www.widiscgolf.com/mkdye/sample5.jpg http://www.widiscgolf.com/mkdye/sample6.jpg

Thanks for the support Nix and Josh!!!

Nix, you got it right. I have learned 99.9% of everthing I know about dyeing discs through trial and error. Just go to my webpage and you can see my progress from simple to intricate. But I understand your point Blarg, I was there once too thinking to myself about the "flames and chains" guy "how'd he do that", in the past. And I too tried to get info from other dye guys, with little or no help. That is when I decided to just start trying different techniques until I came with something that worked well. So if your upset that I wont give out techniques, I am sorry, but that wont change how I feel about it. There is more than enough info out there to do whatever you want with disc dyeing. 10x's more info out there now, than there was when I first started. So just start trying stuff see what works. But dont hate me cause I wont just give up my trade secrets. Make your own trade secrets!!! Good luck!!!

drdyedcom:

I guess I did sound a bit vindictive. Sorry about that. It's just that I've spent hundreds of dollars buying the 'wrong' chemicals, ruining discs and seeking info.
I'm sort of on the fence about all the secrecy some dyers maintain. On the one hand, I feel as though the experts should share their recipes, at least, if not some of the actual techniques. On the other hand, I have five fingers ( :Dsorry about that, coudn't resist). I mean, on the other hand, I can respect 'trade secrets' that may help the pros avoid giving up information that might make it too easy for competitors to duplicate a style.
I have no intention of making money dying discs, I'm just fascinated by it and I like creating 'unique' discs.
Fortunately, I have encountered at least one 'pro' who shared his knowledge freely. He complained a bit that he'd given away so much info for free that he was afraid it would hurt his plans to make money dying discs. He also mentioned that he couldn't afford to keep buying discs to dye all the time, so I sent him a brand new clear candy Eagle as a 'canvas.'
He was very appreciative.

:)

discgolf:

As far as my profile goes, I don't at all feel I should be criticized for it being as it is. Many of the posters in here are 'unknown' in their profiles, unless you believe their real names are 'meat,' or 'nix,' etc.
Plus, if anybody cares, my web page is posted and has info on me. Possibly more than you'd want! :D
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Blarg:

I was making a point that it is funny how you complained about personal dyers not sharing there personal information on dying and here we have no clue who you are? Again if you notice _nix_ has his PDGA# in his profile so we know who he is. Do you think someone that is willing to share this info would share it with an unknown stranger? Sorry if I upset you, but I think that is very impersonal.

Side note:

Also do you think disc dyers collaborate at keeping these dye secrets from you or the public? Do you think dr.dye and I exchange dye tips? Trust me we don't. Dr. Dye and I agree on learning your own style. Does that mean you have to dye 100 discs that might possibly turn out like crap to learn? YES! Again it is a trial and error process.

Well, I see what you're saying, but to me it's irrelevant.
If you knew my name, what difference would it make?

"Hi, my name's Lenny Morik, tell me your secrets!" :D

We get to know each other in here by and large by what we post and by pm'ing and such, unless, of course we meet in the flesh somewhere. I've posted stories, tips, questions, etc. all over the place in here, plus my web page has more info than any PDGA number provides.
As with disc-dying, if you dig deep enough, you'll find the info. ;)