When I first started playing(recently), the Flash was definitely my distance driver. Now it goes right immediately. I have since graduated to Orcs, Beasts, and Crush's.

I wouldn't mind, though, getting back to using my Flash, since it was the first disc I could throw 350.

Any advice, experience, or solutions?

Buy heavy and if that dosn't work then it just wont work for you anymore unless you try something different throwing the disc.

How are you throwing it ? right back hand, right sidearm? left backhand? left sidearm? etc...

Right back hand. Like I said, it used to fly a beautiful s-curve. Now it shoots hard right as soon as it leaves my hand.

Right back hand. Like I said, it used to fly a beautiful s-curve. Now it shoots hard right as soon as it leaves my hand.



It sounds like your over powering it and snapping it too hard, too late. I used to do the same thing but now I'm back throwing them with a little more finnesse than a full blown rip.

I can still hit 475' with'em. Although I prefer a Beast or an Orc 1st. I use the Flash if I want more turnover in my drive.

My .02

PT Woods
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Right back hand. Like I said, it used to fly a beautiful s-curve. Now it shoots hard right as soon as it leaves my hand.



It sounds like your over powering it and snapping it too hard, too late. I used to do the same thing but now I'm back throwing them with a little more finnesse than a full blown rip.

I can still hit 475' with'em. Although I prefer a Beast or an Orc 1st. I use the Flash if I want more turnover in my drive.

My .02

PT Woods
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Well that's better than what my answer was going to be.

Right back hand. Like I said, it used to fly a beautiful s-curve. Now it shoots hard right as soon as it leaves my hand.



It sounds like your over powering it and snapping it too hard, too late. I used to do the same thing but now I'm back throwing them with a little more finnesse than a full blown rip.

I can still hit 475' with'em. Although I prefer a Beast or an Orc 1st. I use the Flash if I want more turnover in my drive.

My .02

PT Woods
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That's one of the things I kind of like about the Flash...it's a long range driver that keeps you honest. I've been having the same type of problem that PT described so I've started using a 166g DX Gremlin that I normally turn over. I'm going to work on trying to keep it stable and I'm assuming (fingers crossed) that will help me learn more finesse.

How do you like that Gremlin, garublador? My buddy swears by his, and often putts with it. What does yours do for youe game?

How do you like that Gremlin, garublador? My buddy swears by his, and often putts with it. What does yours do for youe game?



I use a Proline Gremlin for any shot that requires 250'-300' or so of power, which turns out to be a lot of shots. They seem to be a bit faster than a Roc with less glide. The heavy Proline versions are a bit overstable, so you have to get some juice behind them, but if you do they fly super straight with a predictable fade. They seem to handle the wind pretty well too, but can get some skip when they land (which can be either a good or bad thing). I throw a EXP1 sidearm for right turning shots, so I'm not qualified to comment on how well they hold an anhyzer line. I'm sure you can turn them over like you can with any mid-range, but I think it would fight farily hard to flex back on a big, sweeping or slight anhyzer. They do work for 'S' curves, though. It's my most accurate driver right now, but it's also the one I have the most experience with (I've only been playing since April).

The plastic on them is great. It's very durable and more stiff than regular candy plastic, but still has about as much flex as DX (i.e. it's not as stiff as some of the Gateway stuff). It takes a copule of rounds to break a new one in, but after that they don't seem to change much. They just get straighter and flex out later in their flight. One big downside is that they don't make them anymore. I'm very bad about losing discs and my stash is quickly dwindling.

I've found the DX Gremlins to be a little more squirley, but I think that's because of my technique. They aren't as forgiving about overpowering them as the Prolines. In retrospect, it was probably a bad idea for me to fall in love with them since they aren't all that easy to come by and I know people have had similar, if not better results with midrange discs that are currently being produced. I'm a sucker for a disc with a cool name, though. ;)

You need Discraft's Buzzz

You need Discraft's Buzzz



I'm sure I'll get around to trying it eventually. One thing I think I liked about the Proline Gremlin is that you can throw it just like you throw a long range control driver, like a Teebird. It just won't go as far because it's slower and has less glide. When I throw most other midrange discs that are even slower but have more glide they flutter some and flip over. I've started working on fixing that, though. Once I get that ironed out better I'll start checking out more midrange discs.

Just a word to the weenier arms (like me).
My Flash is totally overstable. I should mention that the one I bought is too heavy for what I'm used to (yellow 171g). I bought it at that weight from a friend for a price that was too good to pass up (7 bucks, pretty much mint).
My drives at the moment max out at around 300 feet and for me the Flash turns hard left (rhbh).
Does the Flash go right for me?
Nope.
:p

P.S.
My Flash also has a zillion rings in it, under the flight plate, very much like a cd. You can see them if you hold the disc at a certain angle. You can also 'hear' them if you drag a fingernail across the diameter.
Possibly made by a spun-steel mold? :confused:

When I first tried the Flash I was turning them over to the right all the time and may have even posted something flippy about it. After learning the disc at the football field, it has become my longest downwind driver. I can't throw them into a wind, though. It has more glide for me than the Crush or the Orc, but I throw those too. When I'm tired it is easier to chuck a Crush than to control a Flash.

I throw 350-385 and mine doesn't go right. I have an orange and yellow and both are fairly overstable. Not as much as a green crush, maybe right around the level of a clear white crush. Heck I throw mine forehand and feel it is in no danger of flipping over (but then I have a really odd forehand...I can throw champ valks sidearm and only get a slight S out of them out to about 340).

Caveat: I throw with a very slight hyzer and let it flip up.

Farthest disc for me. I have it in 172 and 171. It consistently goes about 50 feet further than my other discs. For me they hold a fairly straight line with a little bit of right turn, but they always fade left at the end of the flight, not as severe as more overstable discs, but there is a definate fade at the end.

I am just blown away by the amount of glide I get out of the disc though. Truly impressive disc.

I have a 167 and get it out around 400' and it doesn't go right on me unless I throw it poorly. Amazing disc. I can get my Beast and Orc (just started throwing a 159g Champ) out around the 400' mark, but not as consistently as the Flash.

For me, a brand new 168 gram tie-dye Flash thrown on a hyzer-flip line was going arrow straight and very very very long (for me, 375+). After a few rough landings it seemed to get a little 'slidey' on me -- nothing as bad as the orc/beast/valk line but noticable. It also could have been that I was throwing it more confidently and in more situations (tight fairways, light headwinds, uphill, downhill, you name it /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif )

I'm a big Flash fan, I did put an approx 1/2 inch rip in a 166 Flash, illeagal now I think :mad:

BTW what is the rule on a disc with a rip in it, how long/big before it is not allowed?

I pulled out another at 166, knock on wood.......

I'm afraid my Z-Flash went right today on the 18th hole at Hoover. I was throwing it on my second shot into a fairly stiff headwind. I thought I would give it some hyzer, keep it low, and it would be OK, but I did not throw the line I had envisioned and it went too far right and flew over the road. It tried to fade back onto the fairway, but ended up about three feet onto the road.

The comes the frustrating part. A Saturn drove up and turned just enough to -- at least apparently -- deliberately run over my disc, which is bright yellow and should have been easy to see. (Indeed, had the driver not seen it, he or she should have missed it, because it was not lying where a tire would hit it in the normal course of things.)

When I picked the disc up, it was slightly warped, as was my mind. Maybe the driver really did not see it, and it was just an unfortunate accident. All I know is that because of the damage to my Flash, it will now have a greater tendency to go right, alas.