I'm sure there is a post somewhere covering this but I can't find it. I have disc's that were made in San Marino,
Ontario, and Rancho Cucamonga. Which ones were made when or are they still made at these same locations. I'm guessing San Marino was where the first ones were made because all my old disc have this stamp. Is there a thread where I can
get more info on the history of Innova.
Thanks
esalazar
Nov 30 2004, 05:54 PM
try the ask daveD thread under equipment..
esalazar
Nov 30 2004, 06:04 PM
no prob!! dave (mr. innova) is good about responing to peoples questions..
If anyone knows anybody who can help with info on the history of disc's I would greatly appreciate it
Thanks
flynvegas
Dec 01 2004, 04:10 PM
Rick Neil at Disc Flights. Dan Mangone at DTW. Mark Molnar at Discvalues. S. Johnson MD, Victor Malafronte.
I'm sure there is a post somewhere covering this but I can't find it. I have disc's that were made in San Marino,
Ontario, and Rancho Cucamonga. Which ones were made when or are they still made at these same locations. I'm guessing San Marino was where the first ones were made because all my old disc have this stamp.
Innova started in San Marino, relocated to Ontario, then subsequently relocated to Rancho Cucamonga, where it's currently located. Discs made in San Marino would be around 20 years old.
One thing to be aware of is that the mold marking does not necessarily indicate the location in which a disc was or is made; rather, it indicates where Innova was located when that individual mold was made. So, for example, Aviars have the "San Marino" mold marking, regardless of where Innova was located when the disc was made. Aeros, OTOH, have the "Rancho" marking, even though the Aero dates back to the San Marino days. That's because the original Aero mold bearing the "San Marino" marking was retooled into the Phenix, so when the Aero was brought out of retirement, new molds, complete with the "Rancho Cucamonga" mold marking, were made. All Innova discs are currently made in Rancho Cucamonga.
The so-called "Big" Roc" (the current Roc) originated in San Marino. The mold underwent some minor tweaking when Innova relocated to Ontario, and further tweaking (twice) in Rancho. The San Marino mold is gone (worn out); the Ontario mold still exist but is not currently being used.
So then if I'm reading this right, there are still disc being made with the San Marino stamp in Rancho C., like the aviar ?
Thanks Rob, I will contact these guys. I have been buying disc from Discvalues here of late so I will contact them.
Thanks again
So then if I'm reading this right, there are still disc being made with the San Marino stamp in Rancho C., like the aviar ?
With the San Marino mold marking, yes.
With the possible exception of some of the early ring-stamped Aviars, Aviars (and Aviar variants, such as the Millenium Omega line), regardless of age, have San Marino mold marking.
It is possible that some early disc models that are still in production, such as the XD, still have San Marino mold markings. Other early models still may have San Marino, Ontario, Rancho Cucamonga, or some combination of the three, depending on the whether or not the original mold is still in use. (I have in front of me three Sharks, one with a 1995 hotstamp bearing the San Marino mold marking, a Champion Shark bearing the Ontario marking, and a third that I bought in 2001 bearing the Rancho marking.)
"Ontario"-marked molds currently in production include (but may not be limited to) the Classic Roc, Cobra, Condor, Viper, Rhyno (there is also, however, a "Rancho"-marked mold), and Wolf.
So to reiterate: All Innova discs are currently made in Rancho Cucamonga. The mold marking (San Marino, Ontario, Rancho Cucamonga) indicate where Innova was located when the mold itself was made, rather than where a disc was made.
Thanks for the education fore, will continue my research :)