Jun 26 2006, 02:47 PM
Well, this just stinks. I need feedback.
Yesterday @ the Veterans Park mini ( Arlington, Tx ) some dirtbag was kind enough to remove the payout, course fund , and ace pot from the TD's automobile whilst we were all out enjoying our round. Reluctantly , the TD is a man of strong moral fiber, and payed out of his own pocket. 29 open players.
It seems that this is a MAJOR problem in the DFW metroplex.
Wether is be multiple basket thefts ( 13 @ once ) Individual basket thefts, vandalism, or personal property theft ( bags, plastic, etc.. ) It is becoming a regular issue. Booooooooooo!
Most disc golfers run in tight knit groups. The public is not always privy to the going's on , on the disc golf course. So that would lead me to believe that disc golfers are commiting these hanus offences. Do you have this problem where you live ? What have your courses done to prevent these issues???? I would much rather be proactive, and prevent these problems, what do you think??????????

AWSmith
Jun 27 2006, 12:47 AM
We definitly have a problem with dg on dg crime here in crystal lake, il. i have had 2 friends get their discs stolen by people. one friend threw a big hyzer and it landed on the other side of some trees. we saw a group of kids walk right by it and one bent down a litlle bit ( we thought nothing of it, i do the same thing just cause i like to see what people threw) and then all of a sudden they took off running. when we got over to the spot and realized they jacked it. they were already in their car and gone by then. on a different hole and another day the same thing happened to another friend.
also basket jacking has become common again. the teenagers, from what i have seen, have developed the habit of ripping down trees and limbs that block theor shots and such.
i think i have figured out what the problem is. one of the local middle schools has a little 9 hole on its property. so for gym class the kids learn how to play. i went to the same school and i know the gym teachers, they don't teach anything about etiquette. around here also the only thing the police are interested in is busting the drug/alchol users so they don't do anything about the other problems. i have actually started to become tempted to carry my cell with me (i hate my cell when im playing) and im going to start calling the police when i see this stuff instead of yelling at those responsible cause my comments don;t seem to mean anything to them.

tokyo
Jun 27 2006, 01:06 AM
At states last weekend 2 baskets go stolen from the course we were playing and one of them we did not know untill the round started. I do believe that it is youngsters that think that it is cool to do something like this cause they do not think discgolf is what all of us feel it is to us. When it comes to cash I think that the TD should keep all the money with him at all times and if he needs to pay out an ace pot keep that money in his house and just have the person go back to his house. Destruction of public parks occur every where even if there is not a disc golf course. These people are not out looking to destroy a golf course just looking to get thier kicks and it is unfortuante that it happens on the course. Just keep your eyes open that is all we can do to help prevent this stuff from happening.

august
Jun 27 2006, 07:43 AM
I would set them up and when caught, call the police. If the police do nothing, set them up again and beat the bejezus out of them.

Pizza God
Jun 27 2006, 10:55 AM
yes, this type of stuff started a few years ago, I first noticed it when a fellow TD noticed several t-birds missing from the for sale box. (he didn't sell them)

Next thing I noticed, discs that were turned in for lost and found were taken not by the person who lost the disc.

We have always had problems with basket theifs, I don't think there is a course in the DFW area that has not had a basket stolen yet.

august
Jun 27 2006, 11:49 AM
Stealing baskets is a pretty substantial affront to other disc golfers who play the course. Perhaps if the golf club tied them up, poured honey on them, then set them next to a fire ant colony, they would get the message that it's not cool. :D

DiscDiva
Jun 27 2006, 06:29 PM
It happens and when it's disc golfers, it's really sad. Our home course, as many others, is currently without signs. We've seen them kicked down by people playing. There is trash and broken bottles everywhere that we pick up. The bottles generally get broken by kids, but it's the golfers leaving the bottles. And that would be beer bottles in a park that doesn't allow it. Kids steal discs. Our most recent kids, we took their bikes that they'd left parked and traded them back for stolen discs.

Last year at the Am Worlds flymart we were swamped. As much as we appreciated all the business, we were sad to find several NOT SOLD items missing at the end of the night. I do a lot of custom work and if I ever see a certain sweatshirt out there, it will be removed from the body it's on, even if it takes the head off with it.

But the worst, vandals with so much time they can trash an entire course. Our other local course was completely pulled on June 8th after vandals bent and/or pulled out 14 baskets. The baskets all had to be taken apart so twelve could have new poles. A LOT of placements will have to be redone, as all the lock tabs from the victim poles were broken off. So if you venture near Widefield Park in Colorado, you'll see a nice park with no baskets. Sorry for the inconvenience. We're hoping to have it back in soon.

If we give away more old beat discs to kids to learn to play, will they play and enjoy the sport or become our newest bottle breaking sign bashers? We all need to continue to do our part to maintain attractive, clean courses and hope they invite less trash and bashing. But please, the rest of you, at least haul out your own trash and buy your own plastic. Don't cheapen an already inexpensive sport.

Jun 30 2006, 05:56 PM
Well spoken DD. It just breaks my heart to see this consistantly happening. Talk about the ultimate irony.

WE NEED MORE PEOPLE TO PLAY , SO THAT WE MAY GROW.....

THE MORE PEOPLE THAT PLAY, THE MORE CRIME, LITTER, AND VANDALISM.

I try and make a concerted effort to welcome any new players to my home course. During the mini's I run, I also make that same effort to educate those new to the sport. The point that I continue to drive is this.....

THIS COURSE BELONG'S TO ALL OF US, HOW IT LOOK'S IS A DIRECT REFLECTION OF WHO WE ARE AS PEOPLE AS WELL AS DISC GOLFERS.
THOSE WHOM ARE NOT INTERESTED IN BEING PART OF THE SOLUTION ARE THE PROBLEM , AND DISC GOLF DOES NOT NEED ANY MORE PROBLEMS.