The parks director (not a disc golfer) for the county south of me decided to install a 9 hole course this year. (Long story here.) She set out on her own and was building a good rec course (with a lot of walking). Half way thru constuction I find out, offer my assistance, get some good advice from others, and finish laying out her nine hole course elimining all of the long walks between holes). All of the baskets are in but one, and they were digging it at the end of the day yesterday.

Here is the issue. Pole #8 is in the wrong place. I had placed my flag between two trees approximately 60' from #9 tee which was another 30' from the park road. Pole #8 is now 15' on the other side of the road and 15' from a huge tree (tree limbs are approx. 50' in diameter).

The original #8 would have played about 240'. If you turn the tee box to face the pole now, you are looking at 300' easy....except the hyzer shot would fly too close to a well used swing set.

I can set up any distance from that 300' down to 200'. The shorter the distance, the further away from the swing set. There are no other obstacles except to say the 200' shot would be more uphill (elevation change maybe 5').

What would you do? Try to get the pole moved back? or Set up as you see it? Would you make the road OB? Any other options?


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tree limbs are approx. 50' in diameter




Forget about the course. I want to see that humongous tree!

Safety from the swing set is top priority. Imagine your worst griplock shot and the worst one ever thrown on the hole will be worse than that. Road should be OB if it's used at all and not just an abandoned one in the park.

It sounds like a field decision to me. I don't know that describing it here does it service. But I would say if you can eliminate the danger of the swing set proximity without creating a long walk to the tee, then you can probably work with what you have been handed. On the other hand, if it changes the balance of right, left, straight, up, down, holes, then just dig the bugger up and put it where it you first wanted it.

I personally oversee installation of each and every ground collar on courses we build for this very reason. I just don't trust it to anyone else.

tree limbs are approx. 50' in diameter




Forget about the course. I want to see that humongous tree!




Yeah, is that thing a redwood or something?

absolutely positively take the swingset out of play.

tree limbs are approx. 50' in diameter




Forget about the course. I want to see that humongous tree!

Safety from the swing set is top priority. Imagine your worst griplock shot and the worst one ever thrown on the hole will be worse than that. Road should be OB if it's used at all and not just an abandoned one in the park.



Yea. So would I. :confused: That's what I get for posting so quickly. Restated, the shade created by the tree is about 50' across. Most of the putting area is under the limbs of this tree.

I would liked to have been there, but the parks crew works the same hours that I work. I have not talked to the director, so I am not sure if this was her idea of did someone move my flag(s). The road is used and that should be fine as long an no one parks in that area.

The only solution I see is to put the fairway just left of center between the swing set and the tee pad for #9.

i think i must be a 1000-rated double-poster :)

i would talk to her and find out the reason the pin was moved. regardless of the reason i would then point out the safety issue. i would suggest the pin be re-positioned both for safety (almost non-negotiable) and for the sake of the hole design.

unless she has a conscious reason for moving it in the first [place, she will likely agree - especially whenfaced with the safety issue. put that in writing and she almost must make the change back to the original placement.

if you have the clout in the local DG community, you could organize a one-day fundraiser event to generate a couple hundred bucks to pay for the relocation. doing so might really cement the relationship, and show that the DGers are willing to support the changes they suggest.

The move of the pole (#8) to across the road has turned out to be an opportunity. The proposed tee area takes the playground area out of play and creates (what should be) a "duece or you messed up" shot.

But that is not my point today.

I have a complaint....and I don't even have tee areas installed. The north side of the park is bounded by a strip of "you don't really want to go in there " woods. This boundary is basically the bottom of an east-west ridge. A typical Kentucky ridge with a drop of 30' to 50'. Two holes (#2 and #3) throw due West along the bottom half of this ridge with these woods defining the right hand side of the fairway. In the case of #2, the long tee area is right against this wooded area and throws over 380'. The long tee area for #3 plays just at 360' but will be situated out in the open (more up the hill).

Here is the complaint. The natural weather pattern for our part of KY has the wind blowing IN from the west. Sometimes Southwest...sometimes northwest. The tree line and the ridge should help create a head-wind most of the time. The complaint is that (for RHBH) too many discs will flip in the head wind and be carried off into the woods. Valid or not?

Does this mean that when the wind is light, LHBH may fade or skip into the woods?

Does the RHBH have enough room on left side to start drives a little left and leave more room for the flip?

Fair depends on whether there are other holes on the course that balance this; i.e., more hazardous for LHBH.

Does this mean that when the wind is light, LHBH may fade or skip into the woods?

Does the RHBH have enough room on left side to start drives a little left and leave more room for the flip?

Fair depends on whether there are other holes on the course that balance this; i.e., more hazardous for LHBH.



Ahhhh. I avoided this part of the problem (2 reasons) and you wasted no time.
First. I don't think this description is very good. The hillside has many mature trees. This area was cleared last year and seeded (grass) earlier this year so that most of the trees have no branches under 30'. A canopy effect. The lower part of the hill had a natural fairway with a 30' to 40' wide path from start to finish (some places wider).
Second. I don't have a good feel for how much room is needed to flip discs since I don't flip discs. I've thrown a few S shots down this fairway, but I don't think that is a good comparison.
My thinking was that only a long flat or very "narrow" flip could carry all the way to the pin. For LHBH, a long slow tunover is the order of the day.
As to fair....This hole (#2), #5(?) and #7 set up better for RHBH while #1, #4 and #6 should set easier for LHBH.

Sounds fair overall to me.....
and some good juggling of scores as different players have advantages and disadvantages on different holes.