Alright, let's get the buzz going for this tournament...

First off, I have a question for Suzette. The entry fee says that the tournament is a B-tier this year, is that correct? If so that ROCKS! Please tell me it's so!

SIXONENINE is going to be rolling hard this year at the Sunrise Showdown and I'm expecting us to win more than half of all the divisions! Wootah!

Yes, it is a B-Tier. I have already sent in the sanctioning agreement and paid the fees to the PDGA.



Out of curiosity, why would you think it wouldn't be a B-tier if I put on the flyer that it was a B-tier?

I'm in...Check's in the mail.

Everyone that I have spoken to about it (players) thought it was a C-tier, probably because it was a C-tier last time or something, so I just got it stuck in my head that it was a C-tier, then when I downloaded the entry form and it was B-tier, I was pleasantly surprised, but thought that it was possibly a typo (I have found lots of typos on entry forms for disc golf tournies).

Thanks Suzette!

No problem.

Hopefully the event will be listed on the PDGA tour schedule soon. I volunteered to run the event because no one else has stepped up. I figured So Cal players (mostly Ams) prefer B-tiers to C-tiers, especially if it is a two-day event. The INNColor disc will carry the same design as the logo on the flyer.

Please let me know if you find any typos on the entry so I can correct them. Especially if they are confusing.

We will see you and the sixonenine in August.

Sunrise Showdown Entry Form (http://www.socaldiscgolf.org/sub-pages/forms2006/06sunriseentry.pdf)

Thank you for filling the void then. Sunrise is without-a-doubt the best course in SC; better than EI or LaMa 18, even, by far, so it follows this is the year's top event.

I saw no typos, but having entrants realize their own divisions could possibly confuse some.

I've instructed people not to attend Eldo looking for cometition, this weekend.

Thank you for filling the void then. Sunrise is without-a-doubt the best course in SC; better than EI or LaMa 18, even, by far, so it follows this is the year's top event.



First I would like to state that I really enjoy the Ski Sunrise course.

Now that that's out of the way, I can't believe all this hype about the course being the best in SoCal. Honestly, it isn't. It's a great course, but it's nothing when compared to the Golden State layout for LaMa, or the regular 18 of Emerald Isle. Those are championship courses with more challenge and test of skills than Sunrise BY FAR.


Again, I love sunrise, but wake up and take a little inventory of the course...
#1....There is not one hole on the entire course that can't be reached in one throw by a good AdvAm or average Pro. If everything can be reached then the only time a true approach shot comes into play is when you mess up a drive.
#2....The course has virtually no O.B. Because there is no out-of-bounds the player can spray as much as she/he wants and not suffer any consequence (granted there are areas that a spray would lead off a cliff leaving a difficult upshot).
#3....The MAJORITY of the holes are very simple and short. And by short I mean around 300' (or less), or downhill.
#4....Lefty Course! The shear amount of lefty hyzers on this course is insane. A 'great' course should be more fair.


The things it does having going for it are:
#1....Elevation. Say it again...elevation, elevation, elevation. If you are unfamiliar with shooting in elevation, you might be intimidated and foul up.
#2....Along with the geographical elevation, the course has it's fair share of downhill and a few uphill shots. This will also mess with a good share of golfers, and also lend to some serious fun (i.e. overthrowing the 520' downhill hole with a putter).
#3....Lefty Course! The shear amount of lefty hyzers on this course is insane. The geographical elevation effect mixed with forcing righties to throw anhyzer is sure to frustrate a lot of golfers! A 'great' course should be more fair.
#4....Beautiful view. No hotels, freeways, skyscrapers, etc. Just endless valley and trees, maybe a couple bears too.

So that is my opinion on the course. It is very enjoyable, but it cannot be compared with EI or GSC layout LaMa in terms of course design. There are a lot of weaknesses to the sunrise course and not enough strengths for me to say that this is a 'better' course than EI or GSC.

Feel free to flame me or whatever, but I think my points are quite valid.

You forgot the following plus:

It's cooler up there (temperature wise) than it is down here.

Plus: Camping nearby

Minus: the only viable nearby lodging is camping

Also it is a cool place to lose some discs................................off the side of the mountain for a 3000-5000ft drive :eek: <font color="blue"> </font>

Thank you for filling the void then. Sunrise is without-a-doubt the best course in SC; better than EI or LaMa 18, even, by far, so it follows this is the year's top event.

I saw no typos, but having entrants realize their own divisions could possibly confuse some.

I've instructed people not to attend Eldo looking for cometition, this weekend.





<font color="blue">SLO'S ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

starting to worry
glad to see you posting again! :D </font>

keith

The CFR discs are now listed at Discgolfvalues (http://discgolfvalues.com/store/view_product.php?product=CFR_Wood&PHPSESSID=88eaea3cb7b4917c5c4eb7654cedb773)

http://discgolfvalues.com/store/images/SunriseOpen.jpg

The design is available on Star Rhynos, Star Goblins, Star Leopards and Star Sharks.

You can purchase from Discgolfvalues or directly from me by sending a private message or email.

when are the star rhyno's and leopard's gonna be for sale in regular stock?

Star Leopards will be released in a few weeks and Star Rhynos will probably be in CFR for a while yet.

Star Rhynos, Star Sharks and Star Leopards for the Sunrise Showdown are now available. There will not be any Star Goblins. I apologize to all who were interested in those discs.

These are available directly from me or at

Discgolfvalues (http://discgolfvalues.com/store/view_product.php?product=CFR_Wood&PHPSESSID=88eaea3cb7b4917c5c4eb7654cedb773)

http://discgolfvalues.com/store/images/SunriseOpen.jpg

Star Leopards will be released in a few weeks and Star Rhynos will probably be in CFR for a while yet.



can i add i star leopardmax weight and 1 star rhyno max weight to the luggage you bring to augusta??
i'll give you all the CASH there that i owe you :D

****...it would be probably cheaper just to LIVE in socal than to keep sponsoring every event :eek:

Not a problem for a big athletic supporter like yourself. :cool:

Plus: Camping nearby
Minus: the only viable nearby lodging is camping


Mountain View Motel
1054 Highway 2, Wrightwood, CA
(760) 249-3553
Pines Motel
6045 Pine St, Wrightwood, CA
(760) 249-9974
Skylodge Motel
6110 Spruce St, Wrightwood, CA
(760) 249-5714

It IS a long way up/down the 'hill'....on a windy mountain road, on an actual Mountain. But it's doable. Having access to an automobile would be highly beneficial. Put it this way: The trek didn't deter the Drunks from making the trip to-town, twice, last time our Motley Crew invaded the TM Campground.

....as for affordable rates, I make no claim. I shared a room with about 9-10 others another Tourney Night....frugal, but frowned-upon. And not rest-effective.

I think I'll get a max weight Star Rhyno.
http://discgolfvalues.com/store/images/SunriseOpen.jpg

Maybe there are some motel/cabins in town, but everyone I've seen $150+ a night and beat-up like an old Motel-6 on skid-row.

That's why I said "viable". :)

Suzette,

How many people have signed up for this tourney?

32

Registration (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6129)

Thanks Suzette.

can i add i star leopardmax weight and 1 star rhyno max weight to the luggage you bring to augusta??
i'll give you all the CASH there that i owe you

****...it would be probably cheaper just to LIVE in socal than to keep sponsoring every event





Discette
Reged: 11/03/03
Loc: So Cal Re: 2006 Sunrise Showdown CFR Discs for Sale [Re: keithjohnson]
#570653 - 07/28/06 07:57 AM

Not a problem for a big athletic supporter like yourself.


<font color="blue"> ok while i get the humor(as i always do :D) i didn't get answer....
can you bring them out with you and i just give you all the money in augusta???

patiently awaiting your response

keith </font>

Sign me up for INT everyone else is!

Sign me up for INT everyone else is!


Your rating is too high. :D:D:D

Well there are others that are over the limit I just want to join in on the fun.

Me Too !!!! :D

Important stuff to check before this competition:

Roads' condition
Your condition
Your Discs' condition

....because: The Roads still there* are on a Mountain, the Course is on [and up, and down] a Mountain, and the Discs fly differently in mountain air.

* once upon a time, before many of you were born, even, Highway 39 could be navigated from Azuza to the 'ridgeline' of the Forest [Highway 2 ][Vincent Gap]. Then sometime in the late 1970s part of the Mountain in the Crystal Lake area 'slid away'....taking a large chuck of 39 with it. The area was so large, it can be discerned on the cover of many Thomas Bros. Map tomes. One memorable Summer Morn, I made the entire Trek from Seal Beach >>> Vincent Gap....on a bicycle.

Hey Gwill,

I'm definitely going to the monthly...

Aight. So far it's just you and me that I know of. I'm trying to get Sprack in. I can fit a total of 5 in my Jeep.

Vincent;
Spracklen is in. He's driving. Call me today if you see this, your phone is off or something. Need to figure out when we're picking u up n stuff.

Plus: Camping nearby
Minus: the only viable nearby lodging is camping


Mountain View Motel
1054 Highway 2, Wrightwood, CA
(760) 249-3553
Pines Motel
6045 Pine St, Wrightwood, CA
(760) 249-9974
Skylodge Motel
6110 Spruce St, Wrightwood, CA
(760) 249-5714

It IS a long way up/down the 'hill'....on a windy mountain road, on an actual Mountain. But it's doable. Having access to an automobile would be highly beneficial. Put it this way: The trek didn't deter the Drunks from making the trip to-town, twice, last time our Motley Crew invaded the TM Campground.

....as for affordable rates, I make no claim. I shared a room with about 9-10 others another Tourney Night....frugal, but frowned-upon. And not rest-effective.



I wish I could remember the name of the place I stayed at a few years back. The hotel was all cabins and they had hot tubs in the rooms! And it was very affordable and just at the bottom of the mountain.

Thanks for knocking out that 3rd set of 27 holes that we didn't finish last year. I like the late schedule for the pros and only 2 rounds of 27 so I may send in my entry on the 15th :D:D

Plus: Camping nearby
Minus: the only viable nearby lodging is camping


Mountain View Motel
1054 Highway 2, Wrightwood, CA
(760) 249-3553
Pines Motel
6045 Pine St, Wrightwood, CA
(760) 249-9974
Skylodge Motel
6110 Spruce St, Wrightwood, CA
(760) 249-5714

It IS a long way up/down the 'hill'....on a windy mountain road, on an actual Mountain. But it's doable. Having access to an automobile would be highly beneficial. Put it this way: The trek didn't deter the Drunks from making the trip to-town, twice, last time our Motley Crew invaded the TM Campground.

....as for affordable rates, I make no claim. I shared a room with about 9-10 others another Tourney Night....frugal, but frowned-upon. And not rest-effective.



I wish I could remember the name of the place I stayed at a few years back. The hotel was all cabins and they had hot tubs in the rooms! And it was very affordable and just at the bottom of the mountain.

Thanks for knocking out that 3rd set of 27 holes that we didn't finish last year. I like the late schedule for the pros and only 2 rounds of 27 so I may send in my entry on the 15th :D:D



I agree !!!! That does sound like a cool schedule !!!!
Is there still time to sign up ? When is the cut off date ?
Any Saturday registrations ?

Hey Suzette...Are there more entries other than what's listed under the tour schedule(32)? And what # are you at for SoCal member #'s? Thanks!

Suzette played Worlds this past week so I'm guessing she's been too busy to update the entrants. There are more than what is posted.

Thanks Suzette !!!!! Hope you had a great time at the Worlds last week.
How were the courses ?

We are at So Cal #541. I will hopefully update today or tomorrow. I have lots to catch up on at home and work.

Please let me know if any of these become available..........
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/6022/whippetgw7.jpg

We are at So Cal #541. I will hopefully update today or tomorrow. I have lots to catch up on at home and work.


Thanks Suzette...

Anyone from the 619 camping on Friday and Saturday during the tournament? I am working on making camping arrangements and figured I would check to see if anyone has a group site reserved already. And if you do, do you have some space I can rent?

Richard

Check with Miker about the exact loop and campsite number, we're full, but we could get adjacent sites. We did that 2 years ago, and it was awesome. Go to www.reserveusa.com (http://www.reserveusa.com) There are 2 Table Mtn. campgrounds in CA, book the Angeles forest site.

Is this tournament full? And are there camping sites NOT close to Dave Vincent?

I've got a tent for you to sleep in...I just have to be sitting in order for it to be pitched.

Anyone from the 619 camping on Friday and Saturday during the tournament? I am working on making camping arrangements and figured I would check to see if anyone has a group site reserved already. And if you do, do you have some space I can rent?

Richard


I still need a place to put my tent up. Count Chris and I in if you wanna book a site. Gimme a call if need be.

Anyone from the 619 camping on Friday and Saturday during the tournament? I am working on making camping arrangements and figured I would check to see if anyone has a group site reserved already. And if you do, do you have some space I can rent?

Richard


I still need a place to put my tent up. Count Chris and I in if you wanna book a site. Gimme a call if need be.



Ryan,

I went ahead and booked a site. It has room for 2 cars. The space for the second car is yours. See you at doubles tonight. My reservation needs to be confirmed, but I don't anticipate any problems.

Richard

Ryan,

I went ahead and booked a site. It has room for 2 cars. The space for the second car is yours. See you at doubles tonight. My reservation needs to be confirmed, but I don't anticipate any problems.

Richard


�Perfecto! Gracias se�or.

If anyone wants to stay in the same area as most of 6|9...Book in the Broken Blade section, sites 34 and 36 are still avail. We have 33.

shoot... tried to book #34 and #36 but someone took 'em. room for two tents? lemme know if we can join one of your sites. will pay the shares.

anyone interested in hitting up the course tomorrow? i'm thinking about heading up saturday mid-morning.....

David the King Lewis is 915 and should play pro. not INT.

Who's gonna be up there on the 25th? Lust, Miker, and I are all rollin up to practice during the day, NFL at night.

my friends and i will play there on sunday morning like 10am. meet us there if u wanna, instead of tmw?

oh yeah, i ll be there around high noon on 25th. hope to play with you guys there, maybe doubles for fun?

Who's gonna be up there on the 25th? Lust, Miker, and I are all rollin up to practice during the day, NFL at night.



My plan is to be up there around noon, play a round then check into the campground.

I wanted to let everyone know the event is being capped at 108 players total. Ams and Pros will all play together on Sunday morning for the final round. Saturday division start times remain unchanged: Ams tee off at 8:30 on Saturday and Pros at appx. 1:30.

Please pass this information along to those you know.

David the King Lewis is 915 and should play pro. not INT.



David Lewis has received a So Cal Series exemption, and will be allowed to play Intermediate in this So Cal series event.

Scot Golia has received a waiver from PDGA Tour Manager David Gentry to play in the Intermediate division this weekend.

Cool...They will be stoked.

Can I get an exemption too?

Yes...You're exempt from Open. Let me know when your balls drop.

Hey Suzette, I'm pretty sure it would be fixed in time, but Trey McKelvey's PDGA # is linked to someone else. Glad to see more people signed up, definitely gonna be fun!

Thanks again for making this event happen.

Woo hoo!!! Leaving tomorrow at 6am. Broken Blade...Holla back.

Is anyone taking a practice basket to the campground? If so perhaps I can arrange some additional disc golf games at the campground Saturday after the rounds are complete. I was thinking;

Putting Contest
CTP Contest
Ace Run Contest
Ring of fire
etc....

If a practice basket is there I will organise it if people are interested!

Richard

Does anyone have room for 2 at a campsite at TM? I tried to book one, but the whole thing is filled. Need room for one tent, and one truck. Thanks in advance! Cary

Just roll up...We'll get you settled in somewhere.

Does anyone have room for 2 at a campsite at TM? I tried to book one, but the whole thing is filled. Need room for one tent, and one truck. Thanks in advance! Cary




There are 115 sites at Table Mountain only the 46 available for advanced reservations are filled. There should still be spots available.

Event is now full. Waitlist is starting.

I'll contact you in a bit.

Just dreaming about this shot !!!!

http://www.cincinnatidiscgolf.com/images/CoursePics/Idlewild/Idlewild15b.jpg

I still gotta come up and check out the course !!!!

See you tomorrow !!!!!

Results here (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6129)

Any one else think the "unofficial" round ratings are low. Micah shoots -14 and -15 and doesnt shoot his rating either round.

Any one else think the "unofficial" round ratings are low. Micah shoots -14 and -15 and doesnt shoot his rating either round.


Yeah, looks a bit wierd. I've never seen a compression factor as low as 5 either.

Any one else think the "unofficial" round ratings are low. Micah shoots -14 and -15 and doesnt shoot his rating either round.


Yeah, looks a bit wierd. I've never seen a compression factor as low as 5 either.



Ya, those rating are way WRONG!!!!
there is no way in the world those are right
and i'm not just saying that because I want a higher rating :D

i'm not just saying that because I want a higher rating :D

I am.

Any one else think the "unofficial" round ratings are low. Micah shoots -14 and -15 and doesnt shoot his rating either round.



The ratings do not account for the difficulty. Micah shot two record rounds. The course was in the long position the first round, which makes his first round even better than his second. Additionally, there was more O.B. than usual. I think the compression factor is the problem. The scores that are rated around 990 to 1000 are close. Rating -14 as 1018 is not in the hunt. The compression factor is okay for scores below 1000 rating, but is too small for above. It is on a ski resort so there is altitude and topography. Three guys shot lights out, which probably skewed things.

Thank you Tom Bant, Ron Brawley, and Suzette Simons for putting together a great touney on an awesome course!!! I lost my game on 3/18/2006...If anyone finds it please send me a PM, or post it here. I guess I can make a new one in the meantime.

Thank you Tom Bant, Ron Brawley, and Suzette Simons for putting together a great touney on an awesome course!!! I lost my game on 3/18/2006...If anyone finds it please send me a PM, or post it here. I guess I can make a new one in the meantime.



Thanks to the organizers and all the sponsors! Very fun event and hope to do it again next year.

Richard

Wrightwood Tourney Results here (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6129)

....The ratings do not account for the difficulty. Micah shot two record rounds. The course was in the long position the first round, which makes his first round even better than his second. Additionally, there was more O.B. than usual. I think the compression factor is the problem. The scores that are rated around 990 to 1000 are close. Rating -14 as 1018 is not in the hunt...



Place Points Name PDGA# Rating Rd 1 Rd 2 To Par Total Prize
1 Micah Dorias [14609] 1028 67 1018 66 1023 +25 133

Could the 'system' thinking par=54 be a factor?

...congrats to all whom finished!!!

Ratings have been fixed. Everything looks correct now. Thanks to whomever did that.

Those ratings are much closer to what i expected to see. Thank you to everyone who helped out with the tourney! Gotta Love Mtn. Golf!!

Results here (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6129)

Thanks Suzette for letting me staff and help do the Raffle !!!!

about the monthly, is there one September 3rd? the first sunday of the month?

I know the course should still be in till October.

On Sunday's they will run maybe the Second or Third of Four monthlies they will hold this season. They will start at 10:00am and play one round of 27.

Not exactly sure how many monthly's left ?