with the vote to accept the new organizational documents, i am wondering if the current Constitution remains in effect until the next BoD meeting? or has it already been replaced?

what documents is the PDGA currently operating under?

The new By Laws were silent as to how they would take effect, especially as to things like State Coordinators who have been elected to positions which no longer exist, members of the Board of Directors who are serving in a position that no longer exists and members of the Board of Directors who ran for and were elected to positions which no longer exist.

It is your mess. Deal with it the way we always have. Just ignore the By Laws the way we always ignored the Constitution.

Sept 1 for newly passed bylaws.

Sept 1 for newly passed bylaws.

hmmm... according to an email i just received to all current and elected BoD members, the old constitution died on Aug 1, and is no longer in effect.

this seemed surprising to me, but i do not know why.

You would know better than me. Sept 1 is what I heard but I'm not sure it makes any difference for the month of August either way.

well, i received an email from the BoD saying that the old C was no longer in effect as of Aug 1. i havent had a chance to check the wording of the ballot or C to see how the timing all worked out.

seems wierd that the electiopn would have different start dates for people than ppaerwork, but who knows....

seems wierd that the electiopn would have different start dates for people than ppaerwork, but who knows....



It's always been this way with ballots that included elections and other ballot items. In the past, elections finished on Dec. 31, and any Constitutional changes took effect on Jan. 1, while the new Board and State Coordinator positions began Feb. 1.

Although the old Constitution is not legally in effect, we are not changing any current practices, and we are actively drafting new policies to replace those Constitutional items that need to be formalized. Two of these policies would be the Disciplinary Policy and the Board and State Coordinator election policy.

-Theo Pozzy
PDGA Commissioner

tanx theo for the explanation

I'm sorry but this is too good to pass up. No it's not, every time Congress passes a new bill into action, Bush signs a document that he has filed which essentially says "I don't have to obey this law... Nah Nah Na Nah Nah!"

:D

huh? i dont get it, and i know you are not saying Theo is like Bush! :D

How do you know you I'm not!!!

How do you know you I'm not!!!



Because if you were you would have written:

[whine on]How do you know you I'm not!!![whine off] :D

You know, there are Republicans in the PDGA. Do you think these gratuitous comments made against their leaders, especially those made by our PDGA leadership, are going to be received well by them?

This has been an ongoing problem and apparently needs to be addressed again. Please try to be apolitical, at least in the PDGA topics forum and other officially backed PDGA forums. There's a miscellaneous thread for anything and everything somewhere else in this Discussion Board for all that.

You know, there are Republicans in the PDGA. Do you think these gratuitous comments made against their leaders, especially those made by our PDGA leadership, are going to be received well by them?

This has been an ongoing problem and apparently needs to be addressed again. Please try to be apolitical, at least in the PDGA topics forum and other officially backed PDGA forums. There's a miscellaneous thread for anything and everything somewhere else in this Discussion Board for all that.



Let me apologize, but also let me say that nothing I said is speculative; how then can it be taken as being against Republican leaders, that is Bush? It is a simple but truthful fact.

I will stick to Misc. for this in the future.

i am a republican and i was not offended. as a conservatives i am appalled by Bush & Co.

lyle, you give up too easily! :)

i am a republican and i was not offended. as a conservatives i am appalled by Bush & Co.

lyle, you give up too easily! :)


Help me with this logic. One R says he wasn't offended. Therefore, all Rs were not offended?

You know, there's a 2MR analogy in there somewhere. (If one disc sticks in a tree, did they all stick?)

Test your logic, Pat. And then post political stuff (in fact, off-topic stuff in general) in the Misc. forum.

my point, paul, was to your original generalizations about all republicans. in other words, as long as one was not offended, then not all were offended. see what i mean?

my point, paul, was to your original generalizations about all republicans. in other words, as long as one was not offended, then not all were offended. see what i mean?


No, Pat, you don't see, because I didn't say "all Republicans". I just said there are Republicans in the PDGA who will be offended by talking about the President the way you and others have in this thread. Come to think of it, I'm sure there are some Democrats who would be offended, too -- I can think of a couple off the top of my head in my own family who are Democrats who would be offended by what was written here.

Again, take this to the Misc. thread. Do you need help finding that forum?

my point, paul, was to your original generalizations about all republicans. in other words, as long as one was not offended, then not all were offended. see what i mean?


No, Pat, you don't see, because I didn't say "all Republicans". I just said there are Republicans in the PDGA who will be offended by talking about the President the way you and others have in this thread. Come to think of it, I'm sure there are some Democrats who would be offended, too -- I can think of a couple off the top of my head in my own family who are Democrats who would be offended by what was written here.

Again, take this to the Misc. thread. Do you need help finding that forum?



I'm sorry but this is too good to pass up; which part is it that others would find offensive, the fact that Bush is making signing statements, or the fact that I pointed it out?

In a Democracy, it is expected that everyone will obey the Constitution, i.e. no man is above the law (hence the reason sensible Americans were offended that Clinton thought his sexual pecidillos were O.K.). It is only in a Fascism that people are offended when others question a leader who does not obey the rule of law.

If you want offended Paul, your notion that this is offensive is exactly that. I do agree that this is not the right forum, but I'm appalled that your reason for thinking it's inappropriate is because it is somehow offensive to point out our President thinks he is above the law.

The very reason I brought up the subject is because Pat feels deep in his heart (I disagree) that the Commissioner and ED are acting outside of the disc golf Constitution, hence this thread. If he were correct, then I would be equally offended.

If it is your belief that our President is acting within our laws, I can send you a long list of the over 700 cases where he specifically sites executive privledge in not obeying laws passed by Congress. It is clearly mandated in the structure of our government that the President is supposed to be held in check by Congress and the Judicial. The fact that he isn't is deeply offensive to anyone who believes in this country and what it represents.

Oh wait, maybe it was the Na Na, Na Nah Na that got you? That I definitely won't take back! Do you read the quotes your guy puts out? Frankly, I could see him saying that , and it would be mild compared to some of the diatribes we've been treated to. If you want me to treat him like a President, then frankly, he shoud speak like one. If you're offended by people pointing out that he can't speak, then you should have voted for a Republican who can, say McCain.

There Pat, was that good enough for ya? :D

"...Pat feels deep in his heart (I disagree) that the Commissioner and ED are acting outside of the disc golf Constitution, hence this thread..."whoa there nellie... i asked the question because i did notknow if/when the vote went into effect. no other reason at all. i have no such opinion of the Commish or the ED. now we all know for certain the new rules are in effect, thats all.

"...Pat feels deep in his heart (I disagree) that the Commissioner and ED are acting outside of the disc golf Constitution, hence this thread..."whoa there nellie... i asked the question because i did notknow if/when the vote went into effect. no other reason at all. i have no such opinion of the Commish or the ED. now we all know for certain the new rules are in effect, thats all.



You're runnin' my mojo Pat. :D As long as the point I'm makin' comes through.

I've made no comment for or against what anybody has said with regard to their politics. You are tilting at windmills, Lyle. My point remains that this is the wrong forum to discuss politics. This is a PDGA forum. The fact that you won't abide by that simple fact is the problem.

Goodbye, Lyle.