I am assisting Pete May in a process to hold the National Collegiate Team Disc Golf Championships in the spring of 2007. If you have any interest in assisting or participating, please contact me for more information.
[email protected]
Matt Gillis
Collegiate Team Coordinator
the_kid
Oct 30 2006, 06:04 PM
Do all players have to be AMs? I am just wondering because I may want to put a team together next year. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
shaolintrained
Oct 30 2006, 07:09 PM
Is this a national thing? If pros can play, U of Oregon could probably do pretty good...with Feldberg and Jenkins.
All players must be amateurs.
the_kid
Oct 30 2006, 09:40 PM
All players must be amateurs.
Ok well I will just sign up as an Am in 07'. Problem solved. :D
MTL21676
Oct 30 2006, 10:09 PM
All players must be amateurs.
Ok well I will jusy sign up as an Am in 07'. Problem solved. :D
LMAO!!
nice matt, very nice.
Has any thought been given to using pdga ratings to handicap match play competition in both singles and doubles?
That way both pros and ams have an opportunity to represent their respective colleges and all players can be competitive.
I have organized the Michigan Intercollegiate Disc Golf Challenge Series for 2006-07. Monthly events hosted by participating colleges have been scheduled from October through April. To date, 6 schools have been represented.
The next event is scheduled for Saturday, December 2 at Grand Woods in Lansing, hosted by the club at Michigan State University.
If you have anything that describes the current format for competition at the National Collegiate DG Championships, I'd be happy to pass it on to the players.
Leonard
The Collegiate Disc Golf Championship is a go! This announcement was sent out last week to various student activities directors at colleges across the country. We're going to have a great championship this year, and build for the future of this promising event.
Begin Press Release
The National Collegiate Disc Golf Union (NCDGU) proudly invites you to participate in the first annual Collegiate Disc Golf Championship. This event will be held in beautiful Augusta, Georgia, April 13-15, 2007.
The goal of this first year of competition is to rally colleges and universities across the country to unite and display their school�s most talented disc golf players. In addition to the exciting competition, there will be engaging activities and entertainment second to none for all participants.
� In order to register your team with the NCDGU, please visit www.ncdgu.com (http://www.ncdgu.com) for procedures, eligibility and registration information.
� The first school within each conference whose application is submitted and received by the NCDGU will become the official delegate for their athletic conference.
� Each of these official delegates will be automatically placed in the tournament and will be awarded exemption from qualifying procedures.
� All remaining school will be placed on the waiting list for potential placement in the tournament.
Those official delegates for the Collegiate Disc Golf Championship will be automatically provided with free entertainment, food and subsidized housing at a premiere hotel in downtown Augusta. A $300 deposit will secure your team�s place as an official delegate in the Championship and will be refunded upon registration in Augusta, GA.
For more information about the sport of disc golf, visit www.pdga.com. (http://www.pdga.com.) For further information regarding the Collegiate Disc Golf Championship, visit www.ncdgu.com. (http://www.ncdgu.com.)
Please feel free to contact our office for any additional questions, comments or concerns. Thank you for your time and we look forward to seeing your team in Augusta.
Best Regards,
Dr. John Black, President East Georgia College
Commissioner, National Collegiate Disc Golf Union
bruce_brakel
Feb 26 2007, 01:48 AM
I saw on your website that there are four rounds and a different format each round. How does total scoring work? Is it by total team strokes or some kind of cross-country scoring? I asked the same thing in e-mail, but then realized this was an open thread and not an announcement thread.
www.ncdgu.com (http://www.ncdgu.com) has been updated to clarify these questions.
Basically, it will be cumulative scoring for those in attendance.
In addition, we've received confirmation from 5 schools including a Big Ten representative and a Pac 10 representative. Look for an announcement next week with more information.
If you have or know of a team that would be interested in competing in this event, please contact us!
[email protected]
scottknapp
Mar 19 2007, 09:46 PM
I went to high school with a guy who works in production at ESPNU. When I mentioned this event to him via text message, his response was "thats right up our alley." Anyone from this event thought about contacting ESPNU?
terrycalhoun
Mar 20 2007, 02:35 PM
The University of Michigan will be there. We just got our team captain this morning. :)
ck34
Apr 13 2007, 11:36 PM
Results for the first day Best Shot Doubles are posted. One round of 22 on the Hippodrome (with less OB). Each team could have two doubles teams and only the best score from each school is counted and shown. Tomorrow is singles playing the Hippodrome twice with the best three scores from each school (out of up to four) each round counting toward the championship.
http://www.pdga.com/schedule/event.php?TournID=6892
cwphish
Apr 14 2007, 03:47 PM
Can you post player names so we know who is representing the teams?
ck34
Apr 14 2007, 07:42 PM
You'll see them when I post the singles results later tonight.
ck34
Apr 14 2007, 08:16 PM
Singles results are posted. Scotty Odom wins the medal play championship today: www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6893 (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6893)
The best three out of four scores each round were used to determine team scores. Current standings are shown here with Alabama holding 16 shot lead over Georgia even after the Alabama guys got there late and took +4 on the first hole this morning. Shall we say the college players are really enjoying themselves here in Augusta, "practicing putting" perhaps a little too far into the wee hours? :cool:
www.pdga.com/schedule/event.php?TournID=6892 (http://www.pdga.com/schedule/event.php?TournID=6892)
Player packs were nice looking back pack bags with 6 Innova discs and several other goodies. Thanks to Innova for their backing of this first official Collegiate Team Championship.
Tomorrow morning is Alternating Doubles then the finals on the new 6-hole stadium course to decide the team champion.
iheartdiscgolf
Apr 15 2007, 12:35 AM
ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!
That is the only time you will hear me say that. :)
War Eagle, btw.
cwphish
Apr 15 2007, 03:32 PM
With Scotty haven taken cash in the past for disc golf, how does this effect the NCAA's support/affiliation or is the NCAA not involved at this time?
ck34
Apr 15 2007, 07:12 PM
Scotty took amnesty and has been an Am for 2007. No pros will be allowed in official collegiate play.
ck34
Apr 15 2007, 07:26 PM
Georgia comes back under brutal wind conditions on the stadium course to win the first National Collegiate Team title passing Alabama in the final round. Alabama held what looked like a comfortable 19 shot lead going into the 6-hole stadium course round, except under today's conditions. Steady winds on the Hippodrome hilltop over 30mph all day plus wet grounds from rain the night before created a challenge unlike any players have seen before, considering the special scoring format for the stadium layout. See diagram here: www.ncdgu.com/championship/the-stadium-course/ (http://www.ncdgu.com/championship/the-stadium-course/)
The Alabama team played last as a group. Georgia was still on the course but came in with an outstanding total score of 202 for their three best player scores. The relentless wind started to wreak havoc with Alabama - freak putts from 8 feet to save 5 turned into 12s or more after rolling 50 feet away on flat ground. Alabama knuckled down and kept their composure on the final holes to stay ahead of Clemson by 5 shots for the event and finish second. Final results are here:
www.pdga.com/schedule/event.php?TournID=6892 (http://www.pdga.com/schedule/event.php?TournID=6892)
cwphish
Apr 15 2007, 07:26 PM
That's what I figured for Official Collegiate Play.
c_trotter
Apr 15 2007, 08:20 PM
I dont quite get how the "Stadium Course" works. If you dont land in the square, it is OB. Do you still throw from where it lands? It seems to me that this is not disc golf, rather a putting/upshot game. :confused:
denny1210
Apr 15 2007, 09:29 PM
It seems to me that this is not disc golf, rather a putting/upshot game.
Word.
Ethan_Wellin
Apr 15 2007, 09:51 PM
is that the extent of the schools that participate in the "league"? the website seems to indicate that not everyone will qualify for the end of season tournament... so I guess basically are there other colleges out there with teams, or is that it?
ck34
Apr 15 2007, 10:42 PM
It seems to me that this is not disc golf, rather a putting/upshot game.
Exactly. The winner became the Putting Champion and got an award with that designation. The Penalty Zones are not OB because you still play from your lie and have to back up any putt you make with a followup putt. While approaching skills are important, the ability to putt is even more so. However, today was survival and didn't look anything like the game was during practice yesterday, just like playing disc golf in heavy winds sometimes doesn't look like disc golf.
Only one player sank a putt from the tee out of everyone and that was by accident when the wind lifted his lay-up into the chains. Everyone was down on their knees throwing upside down shots and using Firebirds and Wraiths from 8 feet. The Plains state players know what we're talking about. It was brutal and the players made more upside down sliders than they'll probably do in the next five years. On the other hand, they've now learned when and how to do that shot. :)
The stadium course is an attempt to develop a disc golf final that is suitable for viewing by a large gallery (such as a large university/college stadium).
There was no possible way to foresee a "hundred year wind", one of the strongest in known history for consistency and force. This wrecked havoc with players, but many were able to overcome these adverse conditions.
This first year is to try some new things and figure out what works and what to change as the Collegiate Championship grows.
Thanks for everyone who contributed to this undertaking. Look for more from the NCDGU in the upcoming months including more information on how to get your school involved for the 2008 Championship.
In the meantime, check out this gallery (http://www.flickr.com/photos/
[email protected]/sets/72157600080937668/) for some shots of the action from today's play.
Jeff_LaG
Apr 15 2007, 11:08 PM
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/211/460812217_233c061398.jpg
Wow, that wind must've been something fierce - to have to lay up from 8 feet away!
c_trotter
Apr 15 2007, 11:11 PM
Thanks for the clarification!
Wow, that wind must've been something fierce - to have to lay up from 8 feet away!
The wind was incredible. Not just gusting to 25 mph, but a steady onslaught throughout the afternoon. Just look at that flag!
cwphish
Apr 16 2007, 06:20 AM
I bet if some colleges knew you could have pro's on your team, the outcome may have been different. I imagine U of Oregon would have done well, and U of NC Charlotte, which I know could have fielded a team of at least 6 male PDGA discers that have cashed, and two pro women. I also wonder if the other schools knew about this, as they too should have been able to bring pro's. Doesn't quite seem right to have a pro win the first collegiate single's championship in the spirit of college athletics. It would be like Lebron James going to school and being allowed to play for U of South Carolina.
The gentlemen that you choose to single out has not cashed since November, 2004 and is currently registered as an Amateur. He is a perfect example of why the PDGA has given an option to register as an Amateur this year. All other teams and players could have taken advantage of this year's amnesty option and the rules laid down by the NCDGU for this first year of competition.
As the Championship develops itself, I imagine that qualification standards will continue to evolve and become more stringent.
We look forward to having the University of Oregon (and as many schools as possible) playing in next years Championship.
Congratulations again to the University of Georgia and all our competitors.
Jeff_LaG
Apr 16 2007, 12:39 PM
From: Georgia blows by the rest for title (http://chronicle.augusta.com/stories/041607/oth_124881.shtml)
http://i.spotted.augusta.com/user/1/gallery/263361.jpg
Georgia blows by the rest for title
By Justin Williams | Staff Writer
Monday, April 16, 2007
On a day when conditions were described as "miserable" and "absurd," the first-ever Collegiate Disc Golf Championships wrapped up at the Hippodrome in North Augusta, in spite of wind gusting at more than 40 mph.
Regardless of the ever-growing numbers on the scorecards and a Stadium Course that was brutally difficult on Sunday, the overall attitude among the players was a positive one. They were pleased to be a part of history.
"It's just great to be able to play in something that's the first of its kind," University of Georgia's Pete McPherson said. "We'll be able to look back 10 years later and say, 'We were a part of that.'"
McPherson and his teammates completed a sweep of the competition, as McPherson took the putting championship with a final-round nine-over 63, and the "DiscDogs" won the team title.
Georgia entered the final round with a 19-stroke deficit but prevailed over second-place University of Alabama by 73 strokes, producing a dramatic turnaround.
For the runners-up, the week-long experience and the overall camaraderie seemed to outweigh a tough final round.
"A round like that definitely leaves a bad taste in your mouth, but we had a blast," Alabama's Michael Connors said. "It was just a fantastic tournament."
Several players reminisced about playing in a national championship setting.
"I've played in world championships and in different tournaments, and this was just as good, if not better than any of those," said Clemson's Ray Cartledge, whose team finished in third place. Cartledge was one shot behind McPherson on Sunday.
"Just meeting all of these guys from different schools was amazing."
Georgia's Kenny LeClair, one of seven first-team All-Tournament selections, also had an appreciation for the first-time event.
"This is a momentous occasion," he said. "Just to be a part of this is great. We are building the event, and I think when other schools hear about the event, it will just keep getting bigger."
Georgia Southern's Mark Wilhelmi, an Aquinas-graduate, notched the day's only ace, connecting on the 25-foot sixth hole.
"To be honest, I was trying to just lay it up," said Wilhelmi, who said players couldn't really go for it in "tornado-like" conditions. "My shot started low, but the wind pushed it up, and it went in."
From the Monday, April 16, 2007 edition of the Augusta Chronicle
Vanessa
Apr 16 2007, 01:34 PM
That wind was screaming. Connor and I played in it for just a little bit, stopping in Orangeburg on the way home from Augusta to try to get in a few more holes. We made it through 5. Try to drive, and the wind RIPs the disc out of your hand. I haven't had that happen since before I got my first midnight flyer! Connor had the strength to muscle a Firebird through the wind, but I just couldn't do anything at all (especially after having played both the Jackson and Headrick courses earlier in the day!). And putting on those little hills in O-burg ... well, after putting up hill 10 feet and having the disc end up 75 feet behind him, Connor learned about the value of the upside-down 10-foot upshot too!
cwphish
Apr 16 2007, 07:21 PM
Matt,
I am saying this because it directly goes against NCAA policies and regulations, and I would think the PDGA should honor those rules first and foremost if it wants to have approval and support by the NCAA governing body. Just my view.
Craig
idahojon
Apr 16 2007, 08:33 PM
First of all, thanks go to Pete May for the idea, and the other volunteers who helped make this happen. Thanks to the schools that participated. Thanks again to Augusta for showing its support for our sport.
This was NOT an NCAA event. It was never promoted as such. It was a College Union event, promoted through Student Union Activity directors, not athletic directors. Disc golf is not recognized as a sport by the NCAA. It is seen, at best, as a club sport, not a varsity sport or one that needs to be regulated by the NCAA.
From SportsBiz, a weekly column by Chris Isadore on CNNMoney.com (2/27/04):
"The NCAA allows athletes to be professional in one sport and still be eligible to play in college as an amateur in another sport. Several college football players have spent their summers as minor league baseball players, for example. But the rules prohibit endorsing any kind of product...
...Schools and the NCAA itself are paid millions in sponsorship deals from companies eager to be associated with college sports. Coaches are paid to wear logos on the apparel they wear during the games. Some even get cash from the makers of the footwear their players use...
...The problem with collegiate athletics isn't whether or not money is going to the athletes. The real problem is the effort the NCAA makes to maintain the facade of amateurism in sports that long ago ceased to be amateur."
The ineligibility rulings of the NCAA have nothing to do with being paid for winning in other sports, but for stepping across the line of commercialism. I don't think $544 of winnings in maybe a third of the events he entered, over a six year period by a player that has taken advantage of the specific rules of the governing body of the sport to return to amateur status will cause the NCAA to blink an eye.
cwphish
Apr 16 2007, 08:43 PM
It wasn't a DIFFERENT sport in this case, and why I posted what I did. I guess I ASSUMED that this effort was in hopes of aligning with the NCAA to grow the sport to a higher level, but again I ASSUMED wrong. I guess I am always looking at the bigger picture. And FYI, the elligibility page is pretty vague in clarifying whether AM status means re-classification as an AM, which doesn't float in the NCAA. A pro football player will never be allowed to re-classify as an AM and play college ball.
And what did you edit on my post Matt and why?
Polish, you have a PM.
Thanks everyone for the kind words. This first year is a building year, and I'm excited to see this event progress into something as large as we all know it can be.
cwphish
Apr 17 2007, 06:27 AM
Matt, may I post the pm you sent me (minus your phone number of course)? I know I can, but in this case, I would like your permission. This is the third time in less than a week that myself or someone I know have been edited or deleted without any reason, just because our opinions differ from that of "authority figures" here on the bored. Kind of baffles me, as none of the posts that got edited or deleted have anything wrong with them according to the current message bored rules. I just don't agree with that. Others may be against it as well.
Again, I think this sets a bad tone for developing a relationship with the NCAA, and hopes of establishing disc golf as a "real sport" with having someone who has accepted cash in Disc Golf win the inaugural National Collegiate singles title (which implies an affiliation with the NCAA - National Collegiate). As an amnestied AM myself, I would have voted against allowing amnestied AMs or Pro's playing because it directly goes against NCAA regulations. I understand that this was in no way affiliated with the NCAA, but i would think it be important to respect the NCAA's regulations to establish credibility. If it was the intent of the PDGA to provide a club sport for colleges and universities, then why was the turnout so low? I know of eight other colleges in NC alone that have intercollegiate disc golf, and none of them attended.
- AB Tech - Asheville, NC
� Brevard College - Brevard, NC
� Haywood Community College
� Mars Hill College - Mars Hill, NC
� Montreat College - Black Mountain, NC
� University of North Carolina at Asheville - Asheville, NC - 3 Time Reigning Champions!
� Warren Wilson College - Swannanoa, NC
� Western Carolina University - Cullowhee, NC
All of these schools are within 2-4 hours of Augusta, and none of them attended.
I also believe the elligibility page was vague in terms of stating clearly that amnestied pro's could play for their schools, but again I don't agree with that if the sport is to grow and gain the support at the collegiate level in terms of being a sport worthy of collegiate competition and alignment with the NCAA. I just wonder if the second and third place competitors this year really knew they got beat by a amnestied pro. The scores reflect it, but somehow I bet they had no idea. The elligibility page should be clear and concise.
tbender
Apr 17 2007, 09:49 AM
It wasn't a DIFFERENT sport in this case, and why I posted what I did. I guess I ASSUMED that this effort was in hopes of aligning with the NCAA to grow the sport to a higher level, but again I ASSUMED wrong. I guess I am always looking at the bigger picture.
IMO, the worst thing Disc Golf could do in terms of growing the sport collegiately is to align itself with the NCAA. Disc Golf would become another non-revenue sport lost among all the others and strangled to death by Athletic Departments and the NCAA rulebook.
If you want to grow the sport at that level, look at what Ultimate does, and adapt it.