I have always wanted to know if this topic has been addressed by the P.D.G.A.?
Is there a standard for what constitutes a hole to be a par three, four or par five?
I worked at a pro shop in Austin where I was asked this question a hundred times a day. Given the ability of the players asking I had to make up what I thought par should be for them individually.
Our cousin ball golf has standards they go by to determine what par is based on the yardage of the hole, and because of this everybody has to relate disc golf with ball golf and thus making par an issue that needs to be discussed.
Should it be a P.D.G.A. standard or should it be up to the course designer to determine this?
ck34
Nov 14 2006, 12:56 AM
It's been online on this site for a few years now:
www.pdga.com/documents/PublicPar.pdf (http://www.pdga.com/documents/PublicPar.pdf)
Along with the other course design guidelines:
www.pdga.com/cd_start.php (http://www.pdga.com/cd_start.php)
A hole with one tee box, given the footage of the hole, can change par throughout the year based on the foliage of the trees?
Good thing these players who are asking have only played one other time before. I was worried that they might not understand the schematics of it all.
Looks like I'll keep on telling them everything is par three. :confused:
ck34
Nov 14 2006, 01:14 AM
Perhaps it might change the scoring average by 0.05 to 0.1 but not enough to change the par on a hole. The vertical tree trunks and branches are way more important than the leaves. It happens in ball golf also when certain times of the year scores can't be counted in a player's handicap.
magilla
Nov 14 2006, 01:15 AM
I have always wanted to know if this topic has been addressed by the P.D.G.A.?
Is there a standard for what constitutes a hole to be a par three, four or par five?
I worked at a pro shop in Austin where I was asked this question a hundred times a day. Given the ability of the players asking I had to make up what I thought par should be for them individually.
Our cousin ball golf has standards they go by to determine what par is based on the yardage of the hole, and because of this everybody has to relate disc golf with ball golf and thus making par an issue that needs to be discussed.
Should it be a P.D.G.A. standard or should it be up to the course designer to determine this?
I like this theory....as a base
Par = Best achievable score + 2
It can then be adjusted as needed.......... :D
Moderator005
Nov 14 2006, 11:08 AM
If you guys want to save yourself some redundancy, there is quite a lengthy discussion on this exact same topic here:
What is Par? (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=62882&page=0&view=collaps ed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1)
Jroc
Nov 14 2006, 02:50 PM
And here:
Scoring Spreads and Hole Skill level (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=485377&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1)
morgan
Nov 15 2006, 08:36 AM
Par is a guideline. That's all. But everybody knows that so why argue about it. You figure out the par with stats, easy.
Like I did here:
http://www.hyzercreek.com/stats.htm