I would appreciate any suggestions or recommendations to either of the courses.

Yes, I know, we need new baskets and tee pads.

How about a new course at Lake Carl Blackwell?

I have heard this mentioned before....

Once again, Hoyt has become my favorite in Stillwater but I still like Boomer.

Lake Carl Blackwell has land for a great course.

According to the poll Hoyt seems to be the favorite. Nice job Stillwater!

where is hoyt grove ?

like 12th and perkins.. i think.

According to the poll Hoyt seems to be the favorite. Nice job Stillwater!



It also seems that most voted without seeing the course this year.....

.....way to go blind voting!

like 12th and perkins.. i think.


i thought that was couch park

and if so that is where a course was going in

According to the poll Hoyt seems to be the favorite. Nice job Stillwater!



It also seems that most voted without seeing the course this year.....

.....way to go blind voting!



I saw it last year and liked it more than Boomer. And from what I've heard Hoyt is better now than it was last year so it's a no brainer.

Easy Conners, no one is saying you are wrong.

It is just an opinion right? :)

I mean this is the most publicity Stillwater has had in some time....that in itself is good.

I simply gave my opinion in a respectful manner, if I came across as a jerk that's my bad(?).

The only reason you like Boomer more is because of the open distance...if I could throw as far as you I might feel the same way.

I mean this is the most publicity Stillwater has had in some time....that in itself is good.



That's right buddy. It's not like the football team is making headlines or anything. :o :D

You don't have to throw far to like Boomer..
Ask Big Nic.. :D

Hoyt is a good addition to have in Stillwater though..
If that course was advertised enough, it could draw in more players in that area. A lot more beginner-friendly, I think.

You don't have to throw far to like Boomer..
Ask Big Nic.. :D

Hoyt is a good addition to have in Stillwater though..
If that course was advertised enough, it could draw in more players in that area. A lot more beginner-friendly, I think.



Oh yes, for sure.

But no one supports Stilly....

I just ran a B tier this year....41 players....last year fifty something....and these were big size tournament productions (this year not so much...but still some)....

....my point is, my dad just got forty something people out at Riverside on a Tuesday night....

I don't mean to be a pessimist, but why fight that uphill battle when no one will support you?

Maybe if we had consistent mini's in Stilly....or tuned the Classic into a doubles.....

or tuned the Classic into a doubles.....



i like that idea :cool:

....my point is, my dad just got forty something people out at Riverside on a Tuesday night....

It sure would have been nice to have some of those ams and recs come out to Stillwater. Was there any talk in these huge minis of taking a trip to Stillwater?


I don't mean to be a pessimist, but why fight that uphill battle when no one will support you?

I tried to call you twice a couple of months before the tournament to find out what was up. You never returned my calls. Finally with less than three weeks before the tournament YOUR DAD finally called me. It seemed to me that you weren't fighting much of an uphill battle

Maybe if we had consistent mini's in Stilly....or tuned the Classic into a doubles.....

I have had plenty of minis this year (a lot more than you have run here in Stillwater). How many Stillwater minis this summer did you show up to? ZERO. Thanks for the support.
The problem with the minis is that no one that comes out wants to play for money ($3 is still $3 to college kids ... that's beer money). Don't act like not having big minis is the reason for the poor turnout.




You never said one thing to me before, during, or after the tournament about all the work that was done at Hoyt Grove. Thanks.

....my point is, my dad just got forty something people out at Riverside on a Tuesday night....

It sure would have been nice to have some of those ams and recs come out to Stillwater. Was there any talk in these huge minis of taking a trip to Stillwater?


I don't mean to be a pessimist, but why fight that uphill battle when no one will support you?

I tried to call you twice a couple of months before the tournament to find out what was up. You never returned my calls. Finally with less than three weeks before the tournament YOUR DAD finally called me. It seemed to me that you weren't fighting much of an uphill battle

Maybe if we had consistent mini's in Stilly....or tuned the Classic into a doubles.....

I have had plenty of minis this year (a lot more than you have run here in Stillwater). How many Stillwater minis this summer did you show up to? ZERO. Thanks for the support.
The problem with the minis is that no one that comes out wants to play for money ($3 is still $3 to college kids ... that's beer money). Don't act like not having big minis is the reason for the poor turnout.




You never said one thing to me before, during, or after the tournament about all the work that was done at Hoyt Grove. Thanks.



That kind of immature post is not suitable for mass board consumption. If you want to say something then be a man and say it to my face.

Posting something like that has no positive purpose and achieves nothing.

I have always know what kind of guy you are Tom, and you just prove it to me over and over again.

As for the content of your post, you will have a PM shortly. I will not respond to anymore of this bull.

Have a little Stillwater pride and don't post anymore of this crap up here for people to see how unprofessional you are.

Its getting thick in here. :o

....my point is, my dad just got forty something people out at Riverside on a Tuesday night....

It sure would have been nice to have some of those ams and recs come out to Stillwater. Was there any talk in these huge minis of taking a trip to Stillwater?


I don't mean to be a pessimist, but why fight that uphill battle when no one will support you?

I tried to call you twice a couple of months before the tournament to find out what was up. You never returned my calls. Finally with less than three weeks before the tournament YOUR DAD finally called me. It seemed to me that you weren't fighting much of an uphill battle

Maybe if we had consistent mini's in Stilly....or tuned the Classic into a doubles.....

I have had plenty of minis this year (a lot more than you have run here in Stillwater). How many Stillwater minis this summer did you show up to? ZERO. Thanks for the support.
The problem with the minis is that no one that comes out wants to play for money ($3 is still $3 to college kids ... that's beer money). Don't act like not having big minis is the reason for the poor turnout.




You never said one thing to me before, during, or after the tournament about all the work that was done at Hoyt Grove. Thanks.



That kind of immature post is not suitable for mass board consumption. If you want to say something then be a man and say it to my face.

Posting something like that has no positive purpose and achieves nothing.

I have always know what kind of guy you are Tom, and you just prove it to me over and over again.

As for the content of your post, you will have a PM shortly. I will not respond to anymore of this bull.

Have a little Stillwater pride and don't post anymore of this crap up here for people to see how unprofessional you are.



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That kind of immature post is not suitable for mass board consumption. If you want to say something then be a man and say it to my face.

Posting something like that has no positive purpose and achieves nothing.

wow
did not think this is what i would be reading today
not sure how or why it built up to this
but i hope ou guys can smooth this one out
good luck

Some times on this board it is hard for the person reading a post to fully understand the intention by the poster and it hits a nerve. With posting or emails we lose the ability to actually hear how the person was intending their message to be understood.

I think that if they would have had this conversation in person it wouldn't be where it is.

Some times we just have to agree to disagree and let it be. ;)

Some times on this board it is hard for the person reading a post to fully understand the intention by the poster and it hits a nerve. With posting or emails we lose the ability to actually hear how the person was intending their message to be understood.

I think that if they would have had this conversation in person it wouldn't be where it is.

Some times we just have to agree to disagree and let it be. ;)



Maybe I should start posting Drew's PM's to me with all the rediculous allegations.

Again Drew. Quit calling me and harassing me at work. Very childish.

Like you said in your PM. You purposely didn't answer my calls to you when I wanted to discuss the tournament because you "don't like me" (great move by the TD). Fine. Oh darn. Then quit calling me.

Both of you need to drop it until you are in person and talk it over a beer, Andrew can have a root beer.

Tom, I have no problems with you or Andrew and I'm sure you both have some valid points, but they shouldn't be hashed out here.
I'll be more than happy to be the refferee for a three round death match if we need but lets do it in the park instead of here. ;)

Maybe I should start posting Drew's PM's to me with all the rediculous allegations.

Again Drew. Quit calling me and harassing me at work. Very childish.

Like you said in your PM. You purposely didn't answer my calls to you when I wanted to discuss the tournament because you "don't like me" (great move by the TD). Fine. Oh darn. Then quit calling me.



I called once you didn't answer.

Otherwise consider this my last communication on the subject. I have moved on so should you.

Next event on the schedule is tonight McClure at 6. Be there~! :D

... agree to disagree ... there's something positive and cool in that ...
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... OR ,
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... juice guys could chat about thangs in the cool evening air AT "Friday Nite Flights" , Riverside 2-morrow ... AND , if you were talking over Beers , I want my cut ! ... bring an extra "cold one" for me to enjoy as well ... after my round of Draw-Dubs , that would hit the spot ... besides , the draw-of-the-cards may find me partnered with either one of you ... a Tom T -or- red-haired Treat ... too cool ... I'd take either one of ya as a Partner and dig it ... :)

sorry you cats are scratchin'... remember the good times. :DChances are the issues aren't worth the effort. :D

This all got blown out of proportion when Tom took exception to Andrew's innocolous comment about weekly mini's in Stillwater.

Tom took that as an attack and I can tell you for certain it was in no way intended that way.

I sense Tom felt that he wasn't thanked enough for what he did at Hoyt. It seems obvious from all of the post that everyone thinks he did a great job. I know I personally thanked him, whether he remembers that or not. I also thanked his volunteers personally for their help.

The flip side is anyone who has ran a tournament knows the "back office" invisible side. The haggling with Innova over art work, paying the sanctioning fee and CFR order out of our pocket, about $1,000, getting the shelters, providing insurance and on and on.

I understand it is tough to get people out for Stillwater mini's and I can't say that I have a solution. Trust me I pushed this tournament at every mini, had sign up sheets available and posted the flyer on every discussion board within 100 miles.

What I do know is that we all need to work together to support Stillwater Disc Golf if we want to see it grow.

Bottom line is we all pitched in and gave it our best shot. All we can do is hope next year draws more of a crowd..

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... deja vu ...



... agree to disagree ... there's something positive and cool in that ...
.
... OR ,
.
... juice guys could chat about thangs in the cool evening air AT "Friday Nite Flights" , Riverside 2-morrow ... AND , if you were talking over Beers , I want my cut ! ... bring an extra "cold one" for me to enjoy as well ... after my round of Draw-Dubs , that would hit the spot ... besides , the draw-of-the-cards may find me partnered with either one of you ... a Tom T -or- red-haired Treat ... too cool ... I'd take either one of ya as a Partner and dig it ... :)


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... I want my partners ! ... I want my Beer ! ... I want my M T V ... :)

Next event on the schedule is tonight McClure at 6. Be there~! :D



I'll actually be running the mini here in Stillwater REMEMBER! Geez. Maybe you should stay in Tulsa going to TCC, OSU is obviously too hard for you anyway. :eek:

LOL!!

OSU can't be that difficult, It looks you made it Tom. :D

OSU can't be that difficult, It looks you made it Tom. :D


now wait a minute wise
between all of the drinkin, drugs, parties, chicks, classes and study time stillwater can be harder than you think. and the fact that you have to drive a hour to go anywhere besides stillwater there is just not enough time in the day
i love stillwater and i am truely sorry i missed the classic
maybe you should try to schedule the event the week after student loan checks come in money is not so tight then

as the world turns so does the days of our lives
i just love this stuff :cool:

Easy guys - It is a shame that we have gotten here. Stillwater Disc Golf is in a good place as far as courses go but we just had a down year as far as turnout. There are probably 20 reasons for a low turnout. The people that were there were happy and having a good time which means it was a good tournament.

OSU can't be that difficult, It looks you made it Tom. :D




Ouch! I guess I walked right into that one. Good one Wise. :)

Funny to see poke football is in such a disarray that not even the disc golfers can get along. It's alright guys, there's always next year.

"there's always next year"............ Isn't that OSU's motto :o

Back on subject missed the tourny but is Hoyt set up the same as it has allways been? It was a decent course and if the scheduling could change a bit or maybe have another event like a one day that I could make that would be sweet!

Hoyt Grove is better. Every year people complain and say that it is easier than Boomer, but look at the scores. The spread is much more at Hoyt.

When you play Hoyt, you actually have to get out of trouble as opposed to Boomer where a shank equals a slightly longer, yet still open upshot.

Also as far as putting in a new course around there, Lake McMurtry has the best potential for an awesome course in the Stillwater area. They have those tricky, thick, pine-like trees that remind me of Emporia.

Anyways, I had a great time this year and I hope that you guys get better turn outs in the future.

Funny to see poke football is in such a disarray that not even the disc golfers can get along. It's alright guys, there's always next year.


wow the pokes won a game
and did you hear the gundy melt down after the game
holy crepe
he totally lost is
funny funny funny stuff
you got to hear it

Yeah he lost it alright...was he mad at a media person or something?

This is the article that he was so mad about.
Reid is still the most talented signal-caller, but attitude is reason for change (http://newsok.com/article/3131543)

Gundy is a DOOOOOOOOSH bag!

Did you watch the video and hear all the claps when he was done? Classic stuff.

IMHO - that is the only thing Gundy has done right this year.

Did you watch the video and hear all the claps when he was done? Classic stuff.




You mean this one?
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i176/Twoputt/gundyreid.jpg

Gundy is a DOOOOOOOOSH bag!


I was really happy the way OState handled the leaving of LESS Miles but what can you expect from a guy that has Barry Sanders in the backfield, Hart Lee Dykes split out wide right, ball inside the 30 and can't finish the deal against OU. Why can't we keep a solid coach in Stillwater? I like Gundy's passion but can WE please NOT be the doormat year after year. Lets see what we can do against Sam Houston (Formerly known as Sam Houston Institute of Technology) what an abreviated name.

Watch Rhett Bomar tear OSU apart!!! Nah, I doubt Sam Houston beats the Pokes...and Gundy is still a dooooooooooosh but Jenny Carlson is a bigger dooooooooooosh!

Welcome to the club Tom........... :D:D:D

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