RYANB420
Apr 27 2013, 12:55 PM
just trying to clarify some things about the am worlds payout, they are trying to make this a true ameuter event what exactly does this mean? does this mean no payout? are all we gonna get is a shirt a hat and maybe a disc. and a trophy if you place good enough, to me this dont seem right, we adv. players are paying in over $20000 if feild fills, which it looks like it will. to me after room travel expense and everything else will be spending close to $1000, to get what in payout? i just dont understand the TRUE AMEUTER i guess.

jconnell
Apr 27 2013, 05:04 PM
just trying to clarify some things about the am worlds payout, they are trying to make this a true ameuter event what exactly does this mean? does this mean no payout? are all we gonna get is a shirt a hat and maybe a disc. and a trophy if you place good enough, to me this dont seem right, we adv. players are paying in over $20000 if feild fills, which it looks like it will. to me after room travel expense and everything else will be spending close to $1000, to get what in payout? i just dont understand the TRUE AMEUTER i guess.

Technically, "true amateur" would be getting nothing at all in compensation for competition. Worlds and the PDGA is still not all the way there yet. As a "true" amateur, you pay your fee, perhaps get a player pack for entering (usually commensurate with the entrance fee), play for the fun and competition, and get a trophy/medal for finishing well. Same model that is used in a lot of amateur competitions around the world (running and bicycling, to name two).

From what I understand about this year's worlds, the emphasis in terms of players' return on investment is going to be on the players packs and the experience. There will still be prizes for the top finishers in each division, but they will be much more modest and will not be paid as deep as in past years.


This year's Worlds TD, Jeremy Rusco posted this explanation at DGCR (http://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1881074&postcount=1) a couple months ago. I bolded the part where he explicitly says there will be payout to the top finishers.
What should players expect of the 2013 Amateur World Championships? Our goal is always to have players enjoy their experience from the time that they show up until the time that they leave. You will check in at the Granada Theatre which is a block away from the Dynamic Discs shop and pick up your $200+ value players package. From there, you will likely get practiced up on the courses and enjoy the beautiful scenery of the two ball golf facilities that are going to be used for the event. Both courses will allow you to rent a golf cart for your practice rounds so enjoy that experience that few events have the ability to offer. The players party, dinner, FlyMart, poker night, Dynamic Discs shop, clinics, and other activities will keep you busy all week and with everything in Emporia being as little as a ten minute drive, you should never expect travel time to be anything to worry about. At the end of the event, there will be the finals and awards given out to the top finishers. These players will receive a trophy basket, or mini trophy basket, along with additional payout that can be used at the event or at the ease of your computer when back home through our online store that stocks just about everything disc golf.

If you are looking to win or place high in your respective division and make a personal gain by receiving additional payout, you still will! We just don�t see the need to pay out 250 of 500 amateur players. This creates mass chaos in most instances while all 250 players are trying to rush and get their payout and get on the road at the same time. We want to give you the best experience up front and for the entire time that you are in Emporia and think that we can do this without paying out half of the field. With many events doing this across the country, it seems to be the model that will be seen in more and more events. If you can�t find the competitive nature in playing your best, improving your game, and competing against the top amateurs only to be upset to not receive payout for finishing halfway down in your division, then I recommend not coming to the Amateur World Championships and letting someone else fill your spot who will enjoy the tournament and the experience. We don�t feel like there will be any shortage of players wanting to compete and want all 500+ players to come and have the best tournament experience that they will ever have at a disc golf event! We look forward to seeing you in Emporia and promise to put on the best show possible!

Rhyno
May 06 2013, 11:03 AM
This is the first step in defining true amateur events. Next step is to create an organization for AM's only. The Professional Disc Golf Association should be for Professionals. An AM only organization will benefit the AM's and promote growth in both the Amateur and Professional Ranks.

Looking forward to the future....