thx

I assume we aren't playing tomorrow night? I can't anyways.

took 4th in the Daily $50 last night.


Quite a lucky streak you have going. Was that the LKG again?

I played in a $1.50 Turbo No Limit Hold'em Sit 'n' Go on PokerStars on Monday night, and again last night. I was knocked out of the Monday night game by a straight flush, and got one myself last night.

Two straight flushes in two consecutive games of Poker. I'm not saying PokerStars is rigged, but doesn't that seem a little fishy to you?

I feel your pain Jeff. Last night I was playing the $30 rebuy $75k tournament on Paradise. Towards the end of the first hour I am doing ok and end up in a huge(4 way all in on the turn) with a flopped nut flush. Other guy turns up a straight, other guy 2 pair, and the fourth guy a flopped STRAIGHT FLUSH! He was the only one who had me covered too. This was my first tournament on Paradise. OUCH!

It was the Daily. luckily for me they had 240 players in this one, and once the # of players reaches 250 they pay out another 10 spots. so all the places paid out above average.

As for my recent sucess it is not luck(as I do bust out early sometimes, and near the bubble occasionaly), but it is because I use a strategy that helps me make the final table and not just the cash. Sometimes it causes me to bust out earlier, but when I do make the money I am never short stacked, and always have a good shot at the top few spots. This works well because in a lot of the tournaments I play the vast majority of the players are playing just to cash, so by playing the opposite of them I do very well.

Believe me, im not trying to deny your success whatsoever, that is sweet that you cashed high up like that, but there really is a ton of luck involved.

Believe me, im not trying to deny your success whatsoever, that is sweet that you cashed high up like that, but there really is a ton of luck involved.



I prefer to think of it as not getting unlucky.(positive thinking!)

As in winning 70% of the time with KK vs. Ace-rag, etc, etc.
Just winning the hands where I am way ahead helps a ton. Avoiding suck outs is a key component though. So many landmines to avoid in tournaments.

I have also started to avoid getting in coin flips unless I have good pot odds and I am sure I am not dominated by a higher PP or by AK when I may have AQ. I feel that good players can wait for a better chance than 55% to get their money in.
For the last hour and a half of that tournament the other night I don't think I went all in once till I busted. That is an extreme example but it proves it can be done. Many good players disagree on this but it seems to work for my style of play.

u guys still want to do that tonight on PR? ill create it just in case

I'll play.

That strategy is somewhat contrary to your statement regarding getting into the money with a lot of chips(typically very aggressive). Playing tight as such will frequently get you there but you must then gamble with a smaller stack.

That strategy is somewhat contrary to your statement regarding getting into the money with a lot of chips(typically very aggressive). Playing tight as such will frequently get you there but you must then gamble with a smaller stack.



I aim at getting into the money with an average stack, and not sneaking in. I have never been the chip leader as the bubble bursts, and have only been close once or twice. My goal isn't to be the chip leader. Often the chip leader is the guy who has gone all in a bunch of times and has won all of them, including some when he was behind.

It is very possible to be very agressive without gambling in coin flips. Best example is look at any great tournament player. They pick up chips as the bubble approaches by stealing the blinds, and picking up the pot on flops when no one wants to get involved. Many want/need to get into the money, and are not going to risk cashing. They would rather let the agressive player steal then re-raise him and take a chance he doesn't have a hand. BTW- I am that guy who will re-raise with crap if I read the guy for stealing. I once did that and guy folded. Then for the next 4 rounds it was folded to me in the blinds. People respect that play and will be afraid to raise with anything not good because you may come over the top of them.

Say I bet with KJs or 88 in late position to try to steal the blinds(all I want). Now the button who has a smaller but still decent stack goes all in. Very good chance I am way behind, and at best it is a coin flip. I will muck every time with a mediocre hand there. To steal you do not need to risk your whole stack to be successful. In fact I have recently noticed that at least some(not all) players will respect your bet more if you do not push. Didn't think I would find many of these players at my level, but there are some. Key is to know which ones are which.

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I am never taking a coin flip again unless I have pot odds over 2 to 1. They are just too hard to win.

tonight has made me a firm believer that never going all in without a dominant hand is a great plan for me.

well it was a sad turnout of 5 of us for this week, but we played anyways i showed up 15 mins late and at one point was down to 500 in chips, i came back in won it (again) :D brewtus is bubble boy and he chose to make it a NLHE rebuy tourny. since its a rebuy ill make the buy in for only 5 bucks. tell your neighbors and your friends, this thursday 10pm est pokerroom kcRhyno's tourny password discgolf be there or be square

please make it unlimited rebuy!


I want to have some fun!


And by fun, I mean playing a lot of SOOTED cards!

I am never taking a coin flip again unless I have pot odds over 2 to 1. They are just too hard to win.


See what im talking about with luck?? :D:D To go that far in the LKG without a negative coinflip result is, well, spectacular. I will try to get into this next week.

http://216.53.204.10/bike/bike_300.asx

Live at the Bike running all day. Very good for learning how to pick up some tells and mildly entertaining too!

I am never taking a coin flip again unless I have pot odds over 2 to 1. They are just too hard to win.


See what im talking about with luck?? :D:D To go that far in the LKG without a negative coinflip result is, well, spectacular. I will try to get into this next week.



I got lucky once when I pushed with a short stack, and was about 30% to win, and did get lucky. But then I avoided coin flips after. Why I didn't last night I don't know. ??? There is a definite weakness in my game and that is definitely the first hour. I have not started good in my last 10 tournaments. Definitely need to work on this part of my game.

What books have you read?

The other problem is that you never really know if its a coin flip or not.

Finally watching some of this. The $200 NL game is quite interesting. So many bad hands...

There's video to this too?

Ummm, yes. lol

u can sign up for the tourny right now if u guys wanna sign up early..... the first hour is where i usually do my best there and the final table.. the first hour is like Dan Harrington says, its all about survival, on poker room with they structure of the blinds and starting stacks i like to get to the first hour with a minimum of 3500, so basically all ure really lookn to do in the first hour is to play a few hands and double up, let the morons busts eachother out, then when the blinds get worth stealing, thats when i like to open up my game a lil more.

What books have you read?



both of Harrington's- read both multiple times, especially if I fell I am on a bad run I may look at a certain part and see if I may be playing differently than I have in the past, or what I should be doing differently.

Super System II
Caro's book of tells
Tournament Poker for Advanced players by Sklansky
Play poker like the pros by Hellmuth(great beginner book)

Currently reading Championship Omaha by TJ Cloutier

The other problem is that you never really know if its a coin flip or not.



Oh, that is the easy part! Well, it is when you play tight and are only raising with very good hands early on. Here is how I think in these situations- pretty much straight from Harrington on Hold'em

Example from last night. blinds 75/150 I have 3.2k in chips villan has 2.4k in chips. villan is not a donkey, and I think he is a decently tight player.

I raise to 450 in early with AK sooted, villan is next to act and pushes all in. What do you think he has?

-AA or KK:nope because he would have re-raised to about 1000 since he would want me to call and he has position on me for the rest of the hand.

-QQ,JJ,1010: most likely since he is looking to either take a coin flip or have me fold, either way it has a positive expected value for him. A lot of people don't like playing these hands after the flop, since it is tough when an over card comes.

-AK: always a possibility(even though less likely since I hold AK). he may think he can get me to fold, or else he figures I probably don't have AA or KK since SO MANY people love to limp with these hands in early position.

-Bluffing: always a possibility. He may have notes that I can lay down a big hand, or has a tell on me(doubt it, but maybe). Hands that fall into this range would be sooted connectors. I give this a lower chance on this hand since there are many people left to act.

-pairs under 10: small possibility, he probably would have just called my intial raise. But always a chance.

What books have you read?



both of Harrington's- read both multiple times, especially if I fell I am on a bad run I may look at a certain part and see if I may be playing differently than I have in the past, or what I should be doing differently.

Super System II
Caro's book of tells
Tournament Poker for Advanced players by Sklansky
Play poker like the pros by Hellmuth(great beginner book)

Currently reading Championship Omaha by TJ Cloutier



Most of the "Championship Series" is pretty bad. There is something to learn from every book but TJ should stick to playing. lol

You really should read Theory of Poker by Sklansky. It is the best poker book ever written. Hands down.

That's a fairly easy example that is still a bit muddled. And I think KK is an easy push there. Make someone pay for their ace. I assume you laid it down?

oh no- I called.

and then I hit a King on the flop, and he rivers trips.


I don't know why I took the coin flip. Still climbed back from 900, then lost another coin flip and I was out.

I just can't seen to beat QQ these days, even if I have Kings!

You called because you had pot odds and it was the correct move. I understand your logic on not wanting coin flips but you have to call there. Folding is weak, IMO.

Calling isn't a really that bad a move there(conditionally). In a cash game and a SNG it is absolutely correct. However, I do not like it if its a multi table tournament and you think you're a better than most of the others at your table. Survival is more important than pot odds at this point. You're putting in most of your stack while you figure to be behind. If you do lose, the blinds are right behind you and you're really crippled. If you fold, you can still get by the blinds and be relatively healthy. AK is a much better hand to push with than to call with. If you're one of the bigger stacks at the table I think the call is outright horrible.

I am weak then!

Playing in a $1.50 Turbo No Limit Hold'em Sit 'n' Go on PokerStars, I am dealt Ace and Ten three hands in a row. (On one of them, the flop was JQK - I won big on that one...)

The same cards three hands in a row. I'm not saying PokerStars is rigged, but doesn't that seem a little fishy to you?

i was dealt 2-6os 3 times in a row today at a home game. And I ran into a Royal Flush. Stuff happens.

PokerStars sucks. Get your money of of there as fast you can. Im serious.

I heard on several different poker message boards that they have a much different RNG than other sites. I cannot verify this, but i believe it 100%.

They use a different RNG but it still completely random. Oh yeah and it is not rigged. Lots of weird things happen in completely random situations. We play A LOT of hands online because we can play faster. Therefore, you will see more strange things.

No poker sites are rigged.

lot of people used to say that about Party too.

I believe it is because all the fish have migrated from Party to Stars. All the evidence for my case can be found in a Stars $20 180 person sng. These have the level of play of a $5 tournament at best.

More donkeys= more bad beats. simple as that.

Man that sucked. Just played in a $5+.50 tourney w/ 428 people...took 11th, but w/ the flat payout only received $21.00. 1st took like $590. Never had the chips to make any moved.

But took 3rd in a Lucky Dollar w/ over 1400 ppl yesterday and won $196.

just wanted to remind yall that Live at the Bike is doing the "Whale Game" tonight. BIG MONEY! Watch the rich guys gamble it up.

http://216.53.204.10/bike/bike_300.asx

you guys playn tonight?

Are you setting it up again?

yeah its been set up all week

I should be there then.

I would, but i just finished the last of my finals tonight, so I am definately going out to celebrate!

eh only 3 showed i cancelled, im not doin this anymore, no one shows.

Good call.

My bank/credit card doesn't allow online e-gaming deposits! What is the next best way to deposit money in PokerStars or similar sites?

use Netteller

Firepay is also very easy. They also do not charge for withdrawals, just 3.99 for a deposit.

use Netteller

Firepay is also very easy. They also do not charge for withdrawals, just 3.99 for a deposit.



You are getting screwed if you pay $3.99 for a deposit.

But if you only deposit once then it is very cheap considering the amount of withdrawls you make. That is, of course if you are winning and never losing.

Yeah but everyone should be jumping from site to site and sharing in all these sweet bonuses. Y'all don't know what you are missing.

When you do that, you make the same amount of deposits as withdrawls.

Neteller is the best, no question.

i cant say which method is best, all i know is that i use neteller and it works extremly well for me.

Yeah, but I don't jump site to site. Pokerstars is really the only interface I can tolerate at all. I tried Neteller but it was slower in getting the monies back where they belong. Firepay is very fast.

I tried Neteller but it was slower in getting the monies back where they belong.



That is very true. Neteller is very, very slow in getting money back. It says 3-5 business days but it takes about 2 weeks.

I tried Neteller but it was slower in getting the monies back where they belong.



That is very true. Neteller is very, very slow in getting money back. It says 3-5 business days but it takes about 2 weeks.



2 weeks? I have never waited over 3 business days.

WHO CARES how long it takes!

Oh yeah, F playing over your bankroll. I would suggest not doing it. Because if you do and go on a very bad run then you could lose a lot of money very quickly.

Hence, I have to rebuild my bankroll, since I needed to take out a good portion of my winnings to cover some expenses, then proceeded to go on a very unlucky streak. Back to the grind for me :(

I tried Neteller but it was slower in getting the monies back where they belong.



That is very true. Neteller is very, very slow in getting money back. It says 3-5 business days but it takes about 2 weeks.



2 weeks? I have never waited over 3 business days.


Then you are quite fortunate!

ive never had to wait for longer than that either

The last time i withdrew from Neteller, it was about a week and a half and it still hadnt shown up in my bank account, so i emailed them about it, and they said to be patient and that this is normal. It has happened to me multiple times, though.

made a nice score tonight. I won a live $60 tourney with 35 players. $900.

I have always been better at cash games but recently wanted to improve my tournament play. I guess Harrington on Holdem and Phil Gordon's Little Green Book did the trick! :D

bad beat of the week.

Last night final table I have AK diamonds in big blind, blinds are 1 and 2k 5 out of 6 limp in I push all in for 15k. folds around to the SB who has about 18k left he makes the call flips over J 2 off.... long story short 2 on the river and he will never hear the end of that call. I hate the free roll tournaments

Good work Danny.

bad beat of the week.

Last night final table I have AK diamonds in big blind, blinds are 1 and 2k 5 out of 6 limp in I push all in for 15k. folds around to the SB who has about 18k left he makes the call flips over J 2 off.... long story short 2 on the river and he will never hear the end of that call. I hate the free roll tournaments



he did almost have pot odds to call...

Wasnt a smart call with that hand though.

He was getting 1.76:1(13K to win 23K) on his money. If he assumed a hand like AK or AQ he only a small dog in the hand(2:3). Don't think I'd blame him if he was the short stack as he has a good chance to more than double up and knock out an opponent. That goes a long way towards moving you up the payout structure. However, he has the button coming next hand and can pick a better hand to push his remaining chips with some fold equity. It really depends on what everyone else's stack looked like at that point. If he has a healthy stack(which apparently he does as he can play for 6 more rounds) then I think it's a pretty bad move.

It was a good play with AK that was just unlucky but again not a bad beat as you were only about a 60% favorite.

Nice win DR!

His play was really stupid. I would rather push with 67 suited that j2. If you have any jack or pocket pair, he is dominated.

Given that he will have a lot of free hands coming up, that is a definite fold. However, it was a freeroll. LOL!

If anyone is looking for some entertainment you should watch Daniel Negranu's heads up match on PokerRoom with a player called Dreamclown. They have had a few matches already, and the smack talk is 1st rate! They are playing 500-1000 limit hold'em. Go to PR and look under private tables under ring games, it's Dreamclown's HE. Daniel talks about it on his blog and on cardplayer.com .

Daniel's new site, FullContactPoker.com is a skin for PokerRoom. I guess I got online too late to see the match.

Luke, what were they saying. I can imagine that DN was talking it up after reading what he said yesterday in the blog. Obviously, Dreamclown is a pretty hard-headed, ego driven guy.

you could sat that. DN was saying how Dreamclown sucks, and that he is gonna break him. DN has no respect for his style of play(super agressive). Dreamclown calls DN his little rag doll. Dreamclown was really talking a lot of crap at the end of their match. I can't wait to see DN blog today to see what he thinks about it.

I thought Dreamclown was a team of like 4 young guys? What a bunch of punks, id love to see him/them play any top pro, esp. Doyle, LIVE and see if they get away with what they do, instead of hiding behind their computers.

it is a team but it is only one player playing DN. they all have certain games they specialize in. That is how Dreamclown can afford to play this high, as his BR is shared with three others.

I got the audiobook version of Phil Gordon's Little Green Book. It is a great guide for winning at NL Holdem. I am going to upload the mp3 files to a server and I will post the link here.

My internet access is slow, so it may not be done until late tonight or tomorrow morning.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KVB86XEX

Thanks for posting that. Should make for some good lsitening during the drive to Tunica this week.

You are definetly welcome. I enjoyed the book so much that I wanted to share it.

After listening, post some of your thoughts. Especially if there is something new that you learned or never considered before.

DR

disreguard

that is a stupid advertisement. Click "Continue to MegaUpload" and that will take you to the download page.

Figured this would make a few of you happy.
homedepot.com is having a killer deal on Poker sets. Do a search for poker and this will pop up.

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Buy 3 to get free shipping. Then apply code XB2 for an additional 10% off, making the total 51.30 plus tax. 1500 poker chips in white, red, blue, green, black. 3 aluminum cases. I din't think you can beat that. Hurry, won't last long.

They changed the price to 39.20... still a good deal with free shipping on two sets it is like 85.00 with tax...

You can get similar prices on ebay.

Hey Luke, have you been playing in any Centurion Cup sng's? Its a pretty cool idea and im going to start playing them. All I play is sng's - I never play ring games. I wish i would have started playing them a week ago, as I have cashed in 10 out of my last 11 sng's w/ 4 firsts. :)

yea you can pick up 500 for like 9.99 then once you pay the 35.99 shipping you are all set... I was in for 1500 chips for under 75 bones.

not yet. been playng micro ring games to build up my BR- it got way, way too low after a month long bad run. I am just coming out of it now. I prefer to play tournaments, but the bad beats get to me sometimes. I plan on getting my BR back up a bit then switching back to playing tournaments most of the time.

it seems every tournament I am always getting my money in ahead, to lose every time. I know it will come around, but it sure is very frustrating. i saw someone call of their whole stack on the flop yesterday late in a $30 tournament with ace rag, no pair, no draw. of course they won- i had no chance with my over PP. Or when I go all in on a bluff/steal, get called by a WORSE hand, and they win.

Played in two today. First one, i had 7-9 suited and flopped a flush, got all my money in, and got beat by a low straight flush. Just played in the second one...got KhKd early on w/ about 1950 in chips, raise 400 preflop, one caller that has got me covered...flop comes Jc4h5d rainbow, guy calls me all in with KsQc to my KhKd...ten on the turn, ace on the river and im out.

It was pretty funny watching my percentage go from a 96% favorite after the flop, to 82% after the turn, then zero on the river.

Played in two today. First one, i had 7-9 suited and flopped a flush, got all my money in, and got beat by a low straight flush. .



was the entire board suited?

I think so, he had 3-4 spades, i had 7-9 spades, A2Q spades came out, then the 5 of spades came out and i just turned and got up and walked away.

I am completely convinced that the worst play will win every time.

Lol...it does seem like that sometimes.

We had a crazy hand this week in our home game. Check it out:

4 handed- Blinds were $50/$100
Paying out top 3. Everyone is playing tight to get in the money.

Pre-flop
First to act (the overwhelming chip leader) raises to $500
Next to act (short stack) goes all in ~$950 total
Me, in second place calls
Thrid place goes all in ~$1700 total
Chip leader is stunned, but mucks his AhQh
I call the all in
Everyone flips their cards
Short stack has AA
I have KK
Third has QQ

INSANE!

Nobody trips up and we bust out the thrid place guy. Pretty much the wildest pre-flop all in I've ever seen live. I've also gone in pre-flop with AA to be called by two guys, one of which also had AA! We split the pot. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Played a really cool 5/10 Omaha game last night. Dealer's choice (hi/or hi-low). It was a lot of fun. I built up my stack a little and got in the crazy 2-5 NL game after that. I have never seen so many horrid players. One old guy must have donked off $1000 in a couple hours. That game was softer than my pillow. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

I have taken 1st in 3 of the last 4 home games I have played!! We generally avg. 8-10 players!! :DI am not trying to boast , it is just gratifying that my game is coming around!! I have probably only played 20 times and I am up!!!

I flopped Quads with pocket pairs 3 times last night, all in pots that were raised pre flop, and I got action on all of them without anyone having a boat!

Efrain, have you read any material on poker?

anyone can be up after 20 times of playing, tell us how u are after 500 times of playing. then we might give u SOME respect. first things first if u want to take your game to the next level, educate yourself, go read Harrington on Hold'em vol 1.

Heres a bad beat that made me think about sending my wireless mouse through the wall, LOL...anyways im playing in Bodog's $4,000 guaranteed last night. I am the chip leader by about 3500 chips, which happened to be around the average chip stack. The guy who is 2nd in chips is also at my table and sitting two to my left, and seems to be getting angry at me with my good play and luck, and starts talking some smack. We go back and forth a little bit, but nothing major.

Anyways, I get dealt AcAh on the button, and it gets folded all around to me, so i make a standard 4x bb raise. The guy 2nd in chips, who is sitting two to my left and on the BB, reraises 8x, and i just call. Flop comes Kh,Qh,2h, giving me top pair with the nut flush draw. He raises half of the rest of his stack, and I go all in. He says, "i know i got you" and flips over Qs,8c!!! I couldnt believe it, as I will have an enourmous stack if i win!! Then i show my hand and hes like "im still gonna win" and i started laughing. Until the 8 of diamonds comes out on the turn, and the river is a black card. That left me with almost nothing, and i was out the next hand.

Now, that, is a bad beat.

thats uuuuuuuuugly. dont u love those idiots that talk trash play, like a donkey, and still beat you with a miracle?

Yeah, i almost threw up after it happened. Seriously. He didnt even have the flush draw, no straight draw, nothing. Just middle pair with a weak kicker.
The thing that makes me the maddest about it was it was probably 1-2 people from the bubble in a $4,000 guaranteed tourney. If it had happened on the first hand or early on, it wouldnt be a big deal, i probably would have laughed.

Then after the hand, he goes on and on saying how i made an absolutely horrible play, started calling me names, making fun of me and other stuff. So i just took the rest of my money out of Bodog right then and there. Back to Stars i guess.

Ok, i just won back to back $20+2 1 table SNG's followed by a 2nd place in a $20+2 on Pokerroom, so that somewhat makes up for it.

Efrain, have you read any material on poker?



NOT YET!!! :DI am coming up for the Big Show , What are the odds of getting in on some cards? :D

There will be something going on for sure.

Hell yeah. Just final tabled and finished 7th in the 100 person $10+$1 Centurion Cup event today, knocking out the two progressive Cup leaders, MrBriteside and MadScience when it got down to the last 20. I think I need to final table one more event to play in the Coliseum Final this Sunday for the prize money in the bonus pool. Shouldnt be too tough. :p

I have taken 1st in 3 of the last 4 home games I have played!! We generally avg. 8-10 players!! :DI am not trying to boast , it is just gratifying that my game is coming around!! I have probably only played 20 times and I am up!!!



word�!!
I'm glad I broke your streak! :D
You have been playing really solid lately!!

hey, i ended the night in the positive ! :p **** pocket biotches!!! :p

tried to slow play last night with K 8 Club flop came K K Q I checked ,and that is where it went down hill, running J 10 and I had to lay them down. I got a lot of Kudos for the huge laydown, but I didnt get any chips. :mad:

How much did you bet after the Jack came out?

How much did you bet after the Jack came out?



What you should ask is what he was doing playing a K8????

How much did you bet after the Jack came out?



What you should ask is what he was doing playing a K8????



Yeah at least 90% of all bad beat stories include about 3 mistakes by the guy telling the story. lol

How much did you bet after the Jack came out?



What you should ask is what he was doing playing a K8????



please explain!!

I was on the button, everyone limped, I limped (mistake 1) Everyone checked around after the flop I checked (mistake 2) after the turn everyone checked again me too (mistake 3) when the river hit the guy to my right bet, I folded (first correct move of the hand

guess you were right about the 3 mistake rule. I did hit a straight flush Q high later in that session and got paid off by a full house hit on the river when I made my hand on the Turn and checked it. :D

I was on the button, everyone limped, I limped (mistake 1) Everyone checked around after the flop I checked (mistake 2) after the turn everyone checked again me too (mistake 3) when the river hit the guy to my right bet, I folded (first correct move of the hand



So all you lost was a big blind? Not exactly a "huge" laydown since there were no other bets...

Just trying to illistrate to the newer players where the missing bets can come back and bite you, I probally could have stolen the blinds pre-flop, I could have bet everyone out after the flop, It could have gotten expensive trying to value bet it if someone called and saw 4th street with 4 to the strait, but I still probally could have bet a smart player out of the draw with the board paired. that is the problem with free poker the donkeys will call the draw to the river. :confused: guess thats what makes them so fun to play with, oh wait no thats payday.

And that is why I NEVER slowplay. there is no need

I just get people to call me down with third pair or a weak draw. Easy money.

Yep. TV coverage has been wonderful for the real players. Every new player is learning the wrong way to play. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Took an unprecedented third straight home game win last night, It was sweet a few months ago we added a Bounty, win two weeks in a row, you become the bounty for the next week, it is only 10 bucks to take out the bounty but that is the buyin. It was great, Since I had the big X on me I was getting all kind of calls, sit and wait for hands and then guarntee paid, I ended the night with A 7 off, raised prefolp (heads up) got the call flop is A 7 7 rainbow, guy moves all in I had him 3/1 in chips figure he would have moved over the top with aces pre flop, called imediatly, he flips 6 7, It was the most beautifull flop I have seen in a long time. and another trip to the ATM for me. average for the last 3 weeks at that game is about 85 bucks an hour getting paid to play poker. :D

I agree, I tend not to slow play, sometimes situations dictate it, I play with a few very agressive players, and usually they will bet the pot for me, plus I started playing a lot of limit games, and the value of the check raise is an old habbit to get off of.

I met "Fossil Man" Raymer tonight at the local grocery store. He and I talked for a moment about him winning the WSOP. Then, I shook his hand and welcomed him to Raleigh NC!!( he just moved here)

Anyway, I thought it was pretty cool and I wanted to share it.

i can't believe you didn't invite him to the wednesday game

WAKE UP POKER PLAYERS!!!!!! I am resurecting this thread from the dead!

Here is a cool link to "The Circuit," a cool internet radio show about poker. You can download all the episodes on MP3. I have them all on my iPod.

http://cardplayer.com/audio/thecircuit.php

Check it out and post your thoughts.

Any1 checked out www.holdemradio.com (http://www.holdemradio.com) pretty cool stuff 24/7

Yep. TV coverage has been wonderful for the real players. Every new player is learning the wrong way to play. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif



can you elaborate on that a little Danny? ;)

Yep. TV coverage has been wonderful for the real players. Every new player is learning the wrong way to play. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif



can you elaborate on that a little Danny? ;)



Absolutely. Poker is a game in which the object is to make as many correct decisions as possible. The way you do that is analyze the specific situation you are in. Most of TV poker is shorthanded (6 or fewer player) and late in a tournament (several short stacks and very large blind levels). For that set of circumstances, it can be 100% correct to play a loose-agressive style while putting pressure on the shorter stacked players.

The problem is a lot of the newer players try to make these same moves and have no idea how to do it correctly. They don't understand that even Gus Hansen plays tight at the beginning of a tournament. It is silly to get in and raise up a lot of pots with 5 7 off when the blind level is 25-50. But when it is 15000-30000 with a 3000 ante, then you want to take those blinds.

Also, most newer players think poker is about bluffing. This means they bluff way too much. You see guys like Mike Matusow and many others make some big time bluffs on TV. What they don't show is Mike playing ABC straightforward poker for 4 hours leading up to that play. Also, we don't know why the pro was bluffing in that situation. Maybe he saw something in his opponent's betting pattern or picked up on a physical tell. Who knows? The point is, without all the specific information, you can't adopt these unorthadox styles of play.

All new players should learn to play very tight. This is the fastest way to become a good player because so many people will double you up with only 1 pair. You wait for really big hands and play them agressively and you will make money. Plain and simple.

There is nothing wrong with playing very loose before the flop. The only problem is you will be forced to make a lot of tough decisions after the flop when you flop marginal hands and are not sure whether or not you have the best hand. And since you are new player, you probably lack the experience level to make the correct decision in tricky situations.

kewl thanx, I agree!! I have been playing probably 9 months now and I learned my lesson after about 2 or 3 games.I now play similar to how you are describing one should play.It's not uncommon for me to only play a handful of hands in the first couple of hours, depending on the how the game is progressing for me.. I also think the free online poker creates a lot of bad players as well. But then again , they are the guys who are padding the pot. :D:cool:

If you want to get serious about it, get Harrington on Holdem.

If you want to get serious about it, get Harrington on Holdem.



I agree. I read that book, and it was like magic. I didn't even consciously change my playing style, it just happened gradually as I read the book. I was amazed at how quickly winning sessions became the norm after finishing it.

If you want to get serious about it, get Harrington on Holdem.



I play about twice a month .. Same game as mentioned earlier $20 buy in tourney style with 8-10 players.In my last seven nights nothing worse than 2nd.Some nights we play 2 games.IMO all the players at this game are good experienced players and most have been playing together around 2 years ,i think..

If you want to get serious about it, get Harrington on Holdem.



I play about twice a month .. Same game as mentioned earlier $20 buy in tourney style with 8-10 players.In my last seven nights nothing worse than 2nd.Some nights we play 2 games.IMO all the players at this game are good experienced players and most have been playing together around 2 years ,i think..



Like I said, Harrington on Holdem. ;)

thanks for the advice!! ;)

WPT Season 4 premiered tonight on the Travel Channel. It was a really good episode. Ted Forest is a sick poker player. That guy must be able to read minds or something. Gavin Smith is very good as well and does a great job at sensing weakness. He played well and got lucky (which you have to do to win one of those). Chris Bell is defintely a good player. It was obviously not his day. Kido Pham looked like he had a pre-set plan to play super agressive and didn't know how to apply it. He donked off all his chips when drawing dead.

If you didn't see it, I am sure the Travel Channel will replay it a few times. Another new episode next week.

OK,

I play a lot of free poker on Party Poker, and lately they've upgraded the software. I play a lot of multi table tourneys, just practicing for the future. Problem is, I keep getting randomly disconnected when they move me to the next table. I don't mean I get a disconnect and then log back in, I get shut out! I have nothing to do except wait for them to move me to another table, and if they do, I get a 50% or less shot at being able to rejoin the game. Infuriating. I can't find any info on anyone else experieincing these problems. Just really getting me mad. About the only way I can win is if I get seated at table 1 (a 1 in 900 shot).

If they move me, I am screwed.

Somebody help.

call support

did. running better today. got to 40th in a multi with 1550. Got taken out by pocket 10s to my AK.

sounds like maybe a conflict with antivirus or firewall? strange. I play fulltilt and bodog and never had a problem like that. my main problem seems to be my money vanishing out of my account....

btw, i really like full tilt's interface of the ones i've tried. of course every board has yahoos complaining about the weird draws. i think that just comes with seeing so many hands compared to live poker.

6th in a 90 player 3$ko last night. i would have done better but i got smoked twice with qq the kk(both times called by ace/crap), and once had to rebuild from a short stack.

Wow Phil had the tough night on tv. I hate those nights when nothing flops, and when it finally does someone draws out on you.

each of the last 2 weeks someone has hit a straight flush in our weekly hold 'em game- first 2 i have ever seen live in lots of playing. whacky!

Time for a new deck of cards!

each of the last 2 weeks someone has hit a straight flush in our weekly hold 'em game- first 2 i have ever seen live in lots of playing. whacky!


3rd in 3 weeks last night. Unbelievably whacky (getting eerie)!

each of the last 2 weeks someone has hit a straight flush in our weekly hold 'em game- first 2 i have ever seen live in lots of playing. whacky!


3rd in 3 weeks last night. Unbelievably whacky (getting eerie)!



i agree- almost to the point of creepy when i rolled that 4d last night.

I got my second royal the other week. Bang bang.

Now it's REALLY getting creepy. 4th straight flush in 4 weeks last night, this time a royal (congrats, Ben Bartlett). :eek:

If I have time this afternoon, I'm going to work on calculating the probability, but I'm sure it'll be astronomical!

the vegan speaks the truth. years of play without ever seeing a straight flush live and now 4 in 4 weeks!!! now if only i could actually get one instead of watching/dealing them!

Yeah, if somebody else (particularly that shifty Frizzak) had posted those results over the last month, I would've thought they were full of mortadella. But it is 100% legit.

It'll be your turn next week, Biscoe . . .

second week in a row i took second in our bi-weekly tourney. 160$
This time instead of being chip leader until i got down to heads up, i had to hang on as low stack from the time we got to the final table.

I was thinking about taking a trip to play in AC, since i guess that may be the closest place to me. Any suggestions?

borgata is best. i like bally's too for sentimental reasons.

i found a good listing of tournaments with speed and skill ratings. not sure of how up to date or accurate it is, but it looks useful.

Poker Tourney Listings (http://www.pokertournamentformula.com/east_coast_poker_tournaments.htm)

Won a 20 player 110$ sit and go this weekend and got quad dueces twice. actually i forced the guy to split after entering the final 2 down 5-1 in chips and taking the lead.

BTW, is Phil Helmuth the biggest wanker ever? I was hoping that the guy he was calling an idiot for beating him down with 10-4 suited would come around the table and pop him. even the mouth told him he was way out of line. that's when you know you are messed up.

Took down the JPO5 at the Borgata. I was one of the chip leaders with about 650k, but with blinds and ante we were at about 320k per trip around the table so i brokered a split of 6300 each. i decided to take 3rd which was 10,800 and the 35% for taxes with that and let two other guys who thought they could write off more losses have the top 2 spots. basically we had to muck all the chips around to the right people. seems weird the casino just doesn't chop it up for you. i wonder how that usually works.
of course then the guy does an interview sayin we played it out and he won. what a donkey. i wish i would have actually played it out with him. next time i'll know better.