i know i play at different times during the week. i thought it would be nice to know when anybody else is heading out to the park. for as far as today i'll be out around 430. ben geren.

tuesday the 7th i will be going out there around 6 or 6:15
for a quick 9 before the meeting
other than that every sunday at 2

i will try to be out there most of the day saturday the 11th
so if you get there and i'm not give me a call at 883-3345
i will tell you if i can make it back out

Don't forget about our Sunday Mini - info on Tournament Thread :D

I'll be making an unusual mid-week appearance a lil' past 5 p.m. at Ben Geren, I will take all challenges and decimate anyone willing to play (unless you shoot under a +4 average or want to play for more than $2.64) ;)

I think I have $2.64...... :D

http://disc-golf.freeonlinegames.com/

Disc golf game :D

HEy john I shot a -2 down on that little disc golf game and aced # 2 hey baby

Remember Fayetteville's 1st ever official PDGA sanctioned tourney on April 1? Does anyone want to go play in one of their mini-tourns this week-end? Sat. singles (expected large turn-out, so divisions) Sun. flip doubles - $5 per head per event, ace pot is up to $250! Tee-offs 1 p.m. both days.
We can re-familiarize ourselves with their course and check out the competition
so we can be better prepared to kick their tree huggin hippie azzes :)
Whatever you do don't hang no flyers at their park or let anyone from TDSA know that we're going :o
Seriously, we ought to get a group together to go help on some of Tulsa's work days also. What do ya'll think? Talk to me....

I'm going.Taking some Alma Greens flyers with me too /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

If you send your people over here to help with worlds this weekend, we can send them back with some support for your tournamnet and those volunteers will be honored and given thanks after worlds is over. We are planning something special for all of the volunteers after the event.

We will be working on the new Mohawk Red and Mohawk Black courses. New baskets are going in this weekend.
We NEED help, as the PDGA is coming to town for course reviews next week.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks Ganzel. :D

I'm going.Taking some Alma Greens flyers with me too /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif



The Fayetteville Police Department will be stationed at the entrance to Northshore Park this weekend and will be searching all vehicles for flyers.
They WILL NOT be arresting flyer offenders, but they will ask you to leave all of you flyers in a flyer depository located outside of the park. You will be allowed to re-claim your confiscated flyers when you leave the park.
I'm sorry it has come to this, but it seems like a fair compromise- considering the repeated threats of upcoming flyer violations. If any of you folks coming to town with flyers want to drop them off at my house and then pick them up after the round- you may be able to save yourself some trouble at the park.
Just wanted to give y'all a heads up. :D

A flyer chech point. Thats so cool.

I'm leaving sat. morning 9ish? to hit Fayetteville's mini & help
with their maintenance (bringin lots of flyers and a CHAINSAW :o) Got room if anyone wants to go, call me (522-9036). On Sunday I'm going to Tulsa to help with the new
2 courses @ mohawk park (the zoo). Got room for 1 maybe 2
(sending the family to the zoo so I can dig & trim). Someday I'm gonna get a life besides disc golf ;)

All right now Slinger, put down the power tools! :D:D Seriously, a chainsaw is what got our baskets pulled last time. Tulsa may need it though. See ya when you get here!

I played Tilles Park today on my lunch break and was pleasantly surprised to find new tee-signs. A boy scout did them for a scout project (Not Andy). I am ashamed to say that I can't remember his name but I will post it when I find out. The signs are rather nice and have distances also the distances are:
Hole 1 - 256 ft.
Hole 2 - 335 ft.
Hole 3 - 244 ft.
Hole 4 - 220 ft.
Hole 5 - 250 ft.
Hole 6 - 317 ft.
Hole 7 - 309 ft.
Hole 8 - 236 ft.
Hole 9 - 375 ft.

Grand Total - 2,452 ft.

Not bad, I've played that course for 6 years and never really knew the distances. If you can play it early in the morning or while the kids are at school it doesn't seem to have the "crowded" issues everyone complains about, and don't forget about after dark, lots of lights make it rather easy for a night game (glow still recomended) :cool::cool:

HEAD COUNT ..... :D

How many of you people commin up to play northshore this sat?

I have myself, Tree Shark, and Bush Boy for sure.
One more of my group Dustin Watkins is looking to go up too but may not have a ride, I'm gonna be all full.

I'm there.Hey Bailey?Can I borrow a couple discs? :D

I'll be there with a tripod, camcorder, plenty of batteries and film. :cool:
and a few discs. :D

Count me in! With my number of strokes it might even look like 2 players :D

I'll be there with a tripod, camcorder, plenty of batteries and film. :cool:
and a few discs. :D



It's a disc golf tournement Dave, not a porno :eek:.

Ha.

Sure you want my plastic Tom? Remember last time you used a couple of my disc's :o.

It wasn't the discs.Besides,There's always Ganzels if you don't want to loan them. :D

did i hear 70 to 80 mph winds. wheres my discs got to go glow golfin :D:Das long as i'm not throwing into the wind. :)

are those sirens the two minute warning, got to get to my card. :D

Everyone be safe and good luck tonight.

I'll be there with a tripod, camcorder, plenty of batteries and film. :cool:
and a few discs. :D



It's a disc golf tournement Dave, not a porno :eek:



it will be a porno if you bring the wife along. mrs. bailey does disc golf. :eek: :D/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

All Clear.Good night for distance. :D

I sure hope her dad did'nt read your post. He is in town ya know :eek:.

does he want a part. :D

with the recent time change does this mean that the park will be open later into the evening. if it is its time for some night golf. :D:D:cool::D

Night golf is awesome! How about WAFDA ran glow mini tournaments, I think Ben Geren's closing time changes to 11 p.m. (better check that). Tilles could also be a good night golf place (Some good back 9 safari holes out there :)) Alma could be tough night golf with the new WOODED holes, cliffs, and a big lake and all.

roger has been playing quite a bit of night golf out at tillis already. i'm sure he won't mind if we use his back porch as a meeting/gathering area.

should be out at tillis this evening. if anyone wants to go old school give me a call.

should be out at tillis this evening. if anyone wants to go old school give me a call.



All right, I tried to call you - even went out to tilles and played with my son and one of his friends - I should probably put this on the shot(s) of the day, I know its a relatively easy course, my personal back 9 is much more difficult, but I drew chains or metal but no inside the basket on holes 5, 7 and 9, where's a game of 51 when you need it? :D

It is a sad day. We were just informed that one of our Akansas disc golfers was lost yesterday. Denny Reeves. Denny was a great guy, golfer and volunteer for the sport. We will miss him very much.

The below post is from the Darrell Baily in Arkansas.

For those that have not heard. I got a call last night from Ganzel and was shocked,upset and saddened to hear that our own Denny Reaves was killed in a fire at his apartment early wed. morning. I don't know all the details, all I know is he is gone and disc golf will never be the same for me. I still can't believe this has happened and he won't be at the park this Sat. or taking a road trip to Tulsa to help clean up. I have lost a very good friend as I know others will be just as upset when they hear the news. I ask all who read this to keep his family,especialy his two young daughters,in your prayers and give them the strength to get through this difficult time.


GOD SPEED Dennis Reaves(#28415)

It was a pleasure to be your friend.

anyone gonna try to play today or tomorrow
if so when and where.

depending on the wheather conditions i might be out on unday when i get of work. proubly sometime around 6 or 7.

Treeshark and I may try to make it out Sunday afternoon to play a round (mini?)
We haven't decided on BG or going up to Northshore (wanting to hit the Hunter's Extravaganza up there too).
Let me know who all might be out there around 2:00 or so and I'll let you know what we decide.

i will still be at work at 2. might be out at bg around 6 or 7. thinking about as round of night golf. just need to pick up glow sticks and tape.

I'm trying to get a crew together to go play at Sapulpa's "World's Biggest" event this Sat. May 6, for those that don't know (I just found this out) the "World's Biggest" is a national promotional event put out by John Houk of Millenium Disc - the idea is to get as many people to play disc golf as you can, new players and veterans - It cost nothing to go out and play at this event however there is 2 "mini tournaments" that day and a disc/t-shirt set that can be purchased ($12) the mini's are singles $7 per round, tee-off at 10 am, Flip Dubs same price 2:30 p.m tee-off.

The main reason I really want to get as many from our area as possible to go is that a portion of the proceeds from the mini's ($2 per entry) will go to Denny Reaves family, for those that might not know Denny passed away last week, he was a great guy and avid disc golf enthusiast from the Fayetteville area. Fayetteville's club is also putting up a basket that can be won at this event (not sure of the format).

I might have some trouble going to this alone (financially) and am looking for anyone that wants to ride with me and share gas cost, its about a 2 hour drive. More info can be found on Tulsa's or Fayettville's discussion thread.

Anyone interested call me at 522-9036 or Post/PM me

Looks like Alma 2:00 sunday.I think my Brother will be bringing a grill.(Yup,I have a Brother)So we'll be there earlier.Say 11:00?$50.00 entry for Am's $5.00 for Open.All divisions play the same division,Open players get handicapps.Am's have to carry Open players bags and Open beverages for them.They will also be responsable for all the cooking and cleaning up.PLUS! Make available ANY plastic we may need to throw the lakeside hole. :D:D:D:D:D(Response gladly accepted AND expected)

well looks like i'm moving up to the open division. :D

Well it looks like Alma has been slightly broken in.BTW,My partner(Jason Daniel)Canned a 40 to 50 footer on hole 10 for bird.That was the shot of the day.Good job Jason.We need to keep hitting the course to get er tweeked just right.But basically I think it's playin pretty well.

Myself and my partner, and new friend, Roger took a beating at the mini on Sunday. But we had a great time doing it. Of course you have to figure the course designer is going to do good (Darn you and your -11 Tom!!) but everyone else got the best of us too. Those new woods holes have me by the gonads right now. I'll have them figured out by Alma Greens though so watch out!

I want to take this chance to congratulate two of my school boys, Dustin Watkins and Chris Shelton, on getting put on the Junior Worlds List! Way to go guys, make WAFDA proud!!

hey thanx wille me and chris would have never made it this far with out u to show us disc golf me and him count on quick what would be great is to bring alma a world champ back home and thanxs to all the wafda guys for the new course it is great :D

Wow it sounds like a lot of short lefty hyzers. Well since tom has to use his 360 for distance he probably isn't very consistant. it is a hard shot for rightys and an easy for leftys. I will still probably play there. I don't really want to start anything so i am going to answer the questions now
What are you talking about?
Well tom amde a course for himself and I am an *****.
Why are you being mean?
I am an *****.
Did tom shoot an 11 down?
I am an *****.
Congrats on the new course though. Honestly

actually tom and his partner shot an 11 down. we all know pitch hasen't seen double digits. only time he gets close is when he has someone helping him. :eek:

All I can say is Count the lefty hyzers then the rightie.15 thru 18 is DEFINATELY rightie favored.Then there's the rightie hyzers in the woods.PLUS! The alternates will be just as equal.You guys just need to realize there IS an Anhyzer some where in that bag.As for the 360.Only two holes that can be used on.And I nearly pinned #3 without it.That shot was low,Had it been up it would have blown passed it.Hey BTW,If nobodies teamed up with that Jason kid.Better get him now.Pretty good for one year of playin.Yup he carried me all the way /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

I want to take this chance to congratulate two of my school boys, Dustin Watkins and Chris Shelton, on getting put on the Junior Worlds List! Way to go guys, make WAFDA proud!!



Congrats Dustin and Chris. You guys remember me? Look out for a photo of you all in the next Disc Golf Magazine that I took.

Hope to see you both in Tulsa. And no Chris I won't be playing so you can't challenge me again. :D Remember what I taught you mate.

Thanks
Chris Himing

Alma,8:00 Monday morning.(Pools Open) :cool:

Sunday June 4th 2 :00.Mini.Pools Open.Course should be better manicured. $5.00 entry.Ace Hole #3, Pitch will give you an EXTRA SWEET BAG OF GOODIES(Basically Pitch won't be giving away anything)Ha Ha Ha :DCome try anyway.It's still only 465.SOME of us can still throw that far. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

maybe some of them can, but I know you can't! :o:D

Right!!! :pYou know we are having a distance comp at HOTB.

Anyone still planning on being at Alma Sunday at 2:00?
Myself and TreeShark should make it out.
Hope to see you there.

don't think i will make it out there this sunday. :Dstill have at least a week of training left until we can start taking crews out on the water.
there is at least 120 people on the staff up here and only four computers. so the line to get a computer can be pretty long at times.
this is a beautiful place hardly any light pollution at base camp makes the night sky a wonderful sight. looking foward to getting out on the water. should be out on the water for four days on monday for a swamper. after that three to four more days of training then crews start arriving. i'll try to keep everybody posted on my going-ons whenever possible. gotta go.

Yeah Willie,I plan on being there today,I'll call you.

I'll be out at Ben Geren a lil past 5 for a round before the WAFDA meeting, if anyone wants to come out, I'll see you there

It looks like I'm going camping for the long 4th weekend, I won't be able to leave until Sat. around 5 p.m., wondering if anyone wants to play some skins or just play anytime Saturday? I might be flexible as to which course, ect.

Are ya'll gonna keep the mini alive for this weekend? Lotta golf last weekend and plenty of people traveling for the holiday but its hard for me to have too much golf :D

Sounds like you need to be focused on Tulsa my friend.Go have a blast!!! :cool:

What better way to focus on Tulsa than play more golf? 8 rounds of golf in 4 days (unless I miraculously make top 72)
is gonna tire me out, I was feeling the burn last weekend with 4 rounds in 2 days, I still have to figure if I'm gonna be able to go, its tight but maybe possible and yes the rewards of the fun experience out weigh being broke for a week or so, heck I'm broke like that all the time without the rewards :cool:

Where's the action this weekend? Mini? Skins? Ben Geren or Alma?

The action is in Tulsa this weekend. Saturday is the Grand Opening of Mohawk. We are also giving away a new chainstar protable basket with all of the procedes going to Denny's little girls.

Get over here and suppot Worlds and support the family of one of your local players. ;)

I would absolutely love to make Mohawk and yes, Denny's family deserves all of our support however between money & life in general I simply can't make it, heck I'm xtra broke because of going to Worlds, I'll be doing good to get a round in over the weekend locally. I wish I knew someone already going from the Fort, it could maybe be possible then :confused: Have fun with it, you all have definitely earned it

Where's the action this weekend? Mini? Skins? Ben Geren or Alma?



Dang, I've got to quote myself, sometimes I think I'm just talking to myself here :DI'll make the call - Ben Geren, 2pm Sunday, $5 entry for ams, if any open players want to play with us entry for them is $50 & all the ams get a -8 stroke handicap /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

I guess I'll call some of you no board checkin lazy dip wings later this weekend to see if we wanna play some golf or not cuz I'll be playin somewhere with or without ya'll. I know your all scared of a rear whipping anyway :eek:

Willie and I might try to show up, but no promises. We went out and played clarksville today. The course layout is awesome!! The only complaints for both me and willie have to be the 2 really long wooded holes and the fact that the barrels were too close to the teepads. I birdied three of the first four holes, and my game was on until the last few. I ended up beating willie by two strokes. Of course, I was afraid to play skins, since I got my hindquarters handed to me yesterday. :confused: Go figure.

Just an added note for Clarksville........
We twrote down and tallied up distance on the course and it plays 5511 feet. MUCH longer than I originally thought.
I still really liked the course. Has a really nice layout for no more room than there is in the park. The two holes (13 and 14) at 458 and 345 respectively, through the forest of trees still were really rough. I still want to play with the designer so he can show me the route.

AlmaWillie may be away from the courses for a little while, depending on how things go tonight.
At midnight my wife and I go in to begin the labor process for our little girl. No problems are expected but our boy was in the hospital for 6 days due to breathing problems and on a heart and breathing monitor for two more months after that, so.....
any of you that say your prayers from day to day, the Williams family would really appreciate a few words for them.
I am still planning on making Worlds, so lets pray everything goes smooth. I'll let everyone know as soon as we get home and get some rest (may be 18 years or so with this little girl!!!) :D

Thanks for all your support and thoughts, Willie and Family

Willie, Best wishes with your new addition to the family, Our thoughts are with you and Shawna - We'll have to get you a new mini marker for its first toy :) Put it in her lil hands and we may have the next Tigerette Woods of disc golf!

You know I'm praying for all three of you. I'll be out there really early. Hope all goes smooth. Oh yeah, the name is Faith Daniel Williams. In twenty-four hours, I'll be twice the uncle I am now! Lookin' forward to the next "little adventure" :D/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

We're with ya Willie.Faith is a really cool name.(Oh boy! The sleepless nights are a comin) :D

Faith Danielle Williams arrived on 7-11-06 at 10:36 am!! :D :D
She weighed in at a hefty 8 lbs 9 ounces and was a whopping 19 3/4 inches long. Like her momma she is absolutely beautiful and like her daddy is healthy as a horse (had to get something good from me!! :D)
We are now home and doing well, as long as everything keeps up I will get to make Am Worlds after all!!
Thank you all for your thoughts and prayers!
Willie, Shawna, Heath and Faith

Congratulations on the new addittion. Glad everybody is doing well. Time for worlds now.

Congratulations to the Williams family!! People often try to figure out the "meaning of life", well - that's it! Our children are an absolute joy, doesn't get any better than that :)

congrats on the new chitlin. :D

Gratz on the young 'en. Nothing in the world can describe that feeling! :)

Alright all of you spoiled hangin in the AC wimps, come play BG before the meeting tonight, you know that your disc has to fly farther in this beautiful heat :DI should be out around 5:15ish - come on - no wimps, no whiners, oh wait thats for cold ice bowl weather, I guess you can whine and play like a wimp - just come and play!

Sorry,I'll be at the EYE DOCTOR at 5:00.Time for specs.Guess my putting will get better. :cool:

Myself and supposedly Alma Willie+crew & Pitch will be playing at BG before the club meeting tonight, 5:30 or so - anyone else wanna come out?? If so be there, It'd be nice to see some doubles!! Maybe that way I won't have to putt :D

Anyone wanna play this evening b-4 meeting at Joey's, I should be at BG around 5:30

TreeShark and I will try and be there around that time.

A half dozen or so will be at BG today around 2:00.(Fayetteville clan)

A half dozen or so will be at BG today around 2:00.(Fayetteville clan)



Some of us are still working at 2pm.

I hear ya Bailey.Maybe over the weekend?Mini Sat or Sunday.Your call.

I hear ya Bailey.Maybe over the weekend?Mini Sat or Sunday.Your call.



I second that, last year the month running up to HOTB saw some good "mini action" - keep us posted on what ya'll want to do even if it's just casual, you know I'm down :cool:

I hear ya Bailey.Maybe over the weekend?Mini Sat or Sunday.Your call.



You guys should come up the hill Sat. Mini starts at 10am than we could hit wing fest. 5 dollars gets you in and you get to sample all kinds of wings from differant places. They also have beer :cool:.

wings :Dbeer :Ddisc golf :cool:is there some kinda connection here :confused: /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

i'll be hittin the road round 10 tomorrow. headin to kansas city for a few days to kick it with some northern tier folk. then i will set my sites on the fort. look for me out at the course.

Dave changes names like I do socks.

Dave changes names like I do socks.



Dave has changed his name around every 3 months :o

Can we give him a new one?Hmmmm? How about ,Uhhhhhh?The STROKER!It fits with the canoe thing,Definately the Golf thing,AND!!!That thing he did all those lonely nights under the stars. :DActually,I think that's a pretty cool name.It could be "THE" Stroker.That's better.Dave,You are officially "THE" STROKER! :D:D:D(This has nothing to do with anything homo and not directed at anyone other than dave.If you experience bloating,uncontrollable gas,the need to jump into a river,the need to better your golf game,dizziness,or lack of control please see your local disc golf pro for assistance)

Good advice Tom, if Dave gets in trouble he can contact Ash. :o:D

That thing he did all those lonely nights under the stars. :D



who said i was lonely under the stars? :confused: there were plenty of women around :D

That's what I was hoping for.Lord knows there are far more pros up the hill.I plan on being there tomorrow for some friendly advice myself.

I'm a professional at being an amateur

dude it is burning up down here. this heat is not what i am used to. on average mid 70's to 80's every day. no humidity and i always had a lake that i could jump in. that or i could find a waterfall to catch a shower in. :cool:

Welcome back to Hell :D:D:D

yeah just in time for hell on the border. :D so when does everybody play round here. i was out at the course round 1 today with nobody to give my money to. :( guess that was a good thing /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

i will be out at the course today, on this most beautiful day to be back in civilization, around four. if anyone wants some EASY MONEY (i've only played one round in three months) bring it out today. :)

did i say easy money?

(one more post then this one is one fire :D)

:D:cool::) /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif :mad::( :o:p :confused: :D :eek: ;) :D

I thought we fired you - now you've fired our thread - shame on you :p

ya'll fired the road warrior. this is the not so secret weapon, The Stroker. ;)

It's "THE stroker. :D:D:D:D:D

It's "THE stroker. :D:D:D:D:D



oh sorry thought that THE was copyrighted, didn't want to get in trouble. :p

i will be back out at the course tomorrow round three again if anybody wants to play and chat and not take my money. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

you have to love this. i've been playing discgolf and catching up on MASH since i've been home. (yes i know MASH is an old show but we finally got season 10) i get a phone call and i find out that i have a job working at the ferris wheel downtown all i need to do is come in and fill out paperwork and ka-bam i have a job. i didn't even need to go looking for a job, a job found me. :D

3:00 it is.Ben Geren. :p

there will be a few of us out at bg aroung 530. come on out but be warned i have a new disc.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l319/the_paddler/trondisc.jpg

:confused:I'm worried.

OK guys,

I hate to admit it but Pitch is right about something. #10 at Alma (hard dogleg left) is an aceable hole! We really debated on this when we were cleaning out the fairways, but after today I know it is true.


NOOOOOO!! :mad: I didn't hit it!!!
BUT..... I did throw a thumber up and over the trees that landed dead even with the hole and not over 10 feet left!!! It was an easy deuce (on a hole by the way that I had never done better than a four on).
So I can see the possibilty now!! Someday it will be done.

How was the round? Horrible! 8 over with 4 OB's ( I hit every OB on the course at least once :( ) The wind was so bad up top, my first throw (T-Rex) on 17 went way up in the trees (left) and my follow up (in case of a lost disc) with my SB Orc went all the way to the bottom parking lot even with the playground swings (one EXTREME to the other)!!
Oh well, I was playing at least!

Short story made long..... :D ............. I thought some folks out there might like to mark down the day that AlmaWillie admitted Pitch was right about something!! :o

BEAT you at the mini tomorrow Tom!! I mean see you. :o

Barney tried that route at NWA Doubles. He missed it, but it can definately be done!

Myself, Ganzel & Wookie are hitting BG around 3 today if anyone wants to get some action :cool:

Slinger SMOKED Ganzel, Slinger SMOKED Ganzel, na na na na na na! :D:D:D:D:D

What can I say, that kid was on FIRE! Every sidearm looked perfect and was right under the pin, other than the two fifty foot putts that he canned back to back! Me and wook had some good ace runs, kicked back and enjoyed the show. :D

i'll be out at ben geren for a while today. if anybody wants to hit the course head on out. its round ten right now. should be out there until after lunch.

I'll be at Tilles a little after 4 reviewing/playing some of the alternate tee positions for the Ice Bowl, anyone's welcome to check it out/help :)

Scatch the 4 pm thing, more like 5:30

I'll be back out at Tilles around 4pm today if anyone wants to come out, it's one helluva NICE DAY :)

... here ya go Kev. ... from updates & fresh info. ...
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Oklahoma 2007 Schedule of Events
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� Known Events � ( �concrete-solid� ) �



Jan 27 Tulsa Ice Bowl at Riverside Wayne Forest 918-494-9627

Jan 28 Ice Bowl-Arcadia OKC Mark Vasicek 405-364-6730

Feb 10 Snowball Norman OKC Mark Vasicek 405-364-6730

Mar. 10 Ben Geren Blowout Ft.Smith,Ar 1-day C-Tier TD: Dave Hudson

Mar 31- Apr.1 Duncan Lake Hillclimber C/B-Tier Jose Mendoza 918-636-5673 *CAMPING*

Apr 21-22 Chandlerstock (non-sanctioned) Scott (Furdog) Schumacher 918-459-2503 *CAMPING*

Apr 28-29 Griffin Park Open B-Tier Daniel Stacey 405-701-0621

May 5th Flightline Open Paul�s Valley,Ok 1-day B-Tier Thomas Lowry 580-678-5447

Jun 16-17 OK State Championship / Haikey Classic B-Tier Wayne Forest 918-494-9627

July 14-15 Riverside Glide B-Tier Michael Treat 918-245-4644

Aug.11-12 Hell On The Border Ft.Smith,Ar B-Tier Shawn LaMastus & Evan McKee

Aug 18-19 Okie Doubles OKC (non-sanctioned) Mike Click & Wayne Forest

Oct. 6-7 Twin Oaks Open Duncan,Ok B-Tier Thomas Lowry 580-678-5447

Oct 27-28 Oklahoma Open - Pro/Adv A-Tier . . . Am/Nov B-Tier T.D.S.A. 918-245-4644


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� Other events � ( not yet verified 100% ) �


Mar 17-18 Green Country Doubles XB-pend Joe Rotan

May 26-27 Norman Pro-Am B-pend

Jun 24-25 McClure Classic B-pend

Sept 15-16 Stillwater Classic B/C-pend Andrew Treat

Sept. 22 Regional Team Challenge Tahlequah,Ok Tom Pitchford

April 28th, Hot Springs, AR - 1 day C-Tier (pending) (whose the td Pitch?)

May ?? Arkansas State Championships, Little Rock, AR(pending)(Dual SN & PDGA, whose the TD Pitch?)

June 30th, Alma Greens, 1 day C Tier, (TD: Tom Pitchford, Jr.)

Any more info on the above??

... way to go Evan ... squeeze it out of 'im ! ... :cool:

Feb 10th Ice Bowl Tilles Park
Feb 24th Ice Bowl Jasper
March 31st Northshore 1 Day C Tier
April 28th Hot Springs 1 Day C Tier
May 19th &20th Arkansas State Championships 2 Day B Tier
June 30th Alma Greens 1 Day C Tier
Sept 22nd "TEAM CHALLENGE"
All green lighted
It's a go! :cool:
I'm gonna mention also that we have a SN event in Jonesboro AR on the 28th of April.
WOW!!!,Arkansas is puttin on a few tournaments.
Bout dang time. :D

Yeah 2 on the same day! Where will the 10 competetive golfers in AR go? :p I didn't even know there was a course in Trumann. Do they even have a Wal-Mart?

Well due to the snails pace of the So National,The tourney scheduled for Eastern AR wasn't noticed until I was personally contacted by the TD.I do check SN for any conflict.
Doesn't matter,They'll pull Memphis and that surrounding area.
Uncle Bob will be a huge asset to our state .We'll probably see alot more out of him in the future.You'll find the course on the directory.He's also the course contact now.

By the way,It's Jonesboro AR.I know i'm a dip.JONESBORO The 28th.

Full Moon tonight :cool:

I'm thinking Tilles around 6:30 or 7 tonight...I can be persuaded to play elsewhere, call me if anyone's interested, I think Peggy and Chris are down, maybe Jake

522-9036

I would like to know everyone's complaints about southern national tournaments. Compare pdga tournaments who have the same number of people and you will see that about 95% of the time, so. national tourneys payout way more than pdga tournaments.

So National or PDGA
The payout depends on added money AND attendance.
My only complaint is the time thing.I do like the diffrence in the money .Who wouldn't.
Also 300 miles seems a little far to be concerned with conflicting events.(I would only be concerned with that if we were throwing more So National qualifyers)There are so many events now that if we went by the 300 mile idea we'd be having a hard time with the schedule.My main concern is AR.
Yeah I want to see it grow nation wide.But within our state is my priority.My choice would be to play and support AR if there were a tourney say in Tulsa,Missouri,etc.If people aren't given the choice they will have to play elsewhere
It's no secret that the PDGA is getting hard to swallow.They are trying to make it easier by discussing it with the SC's and PC's allowing more input on what we think would be affective for growth.
The bottom line?
Money.
Sending in a couple hundred bucks for a C Tier is kinda hard to swallow.
Spending $75.00 for my membership dues is also a little much.
My suggestion(And they have been many)Is to simply cut EVERYTHING in half.Seriously,Make the membership fees half of what they are and the money for the tourneys as well.
Like it or not the PDGA is the strongest association .I do support them (Obviously)Even So National supports them.
No my only real complaint with So National is the snails pace of doing things.
Otherwise you would have seen many more dual sanctioned events around here.You probably will in the future if they could speed up the communication.I'm not the only one who noticed this.So it's not just me with that opinion.
By the way
I HATE POLITICS.
I just wanna golf now. :cool:

Those are very good points. I think one of the main reasons for southern nationals operating at a much slower pace is the reliance on volunteers for the board of directors. PDGA pays a large amount to the executive officers, but SN must rely on volunteers for everything. I read something a few weeks back that said the fee to become a basic member of the PGA was only 15-25$ with increasing levels of membership becoming more expensive What does that say about our beloved PDGA? Something needs to be done to lower this fee. If we could incorporate the ability of the PDGA to attain sponsors with the approach of the SN to payout and treatment of amateur players, everything would be so much better. Oh yeah PITCH i ordered one of those soft kc pro rocs so we'll see if they're all you say they are.

I dig the disc,Love the feel and flight.
Oh BTW,
Many of the PDGA positions are not paying.
Now I know there's a diffrence between them and So National.
I know there's been problems within So National concerning these issues (Lack of communication with TD's,Scheduling events in a timely manner,Being able to get someone to return e mails and phone calls,Having to reschedule events because of a couple of the above points,)
But all in all,So National is a pretty cool idea.
Just needs to work out some of the bugs.
And the PDGA needs to cut back on all those extra goodies so they can jam out more membership and events.
I'm the SC for AR.
If I weren't,
I probably could have found several things to spend $75.00 on.
Really kinda sucks but whatcha gonna do ?
Did I mention I hate politics?

I know most of the PDGA positions are non-paying, but the 2? i think they do pay are paid very very well. I'm sure we could argue back and forth all day long about this as it is probably done on both forums. I'll let ya know what i think about the roc. Later

I'm not arguing.
This type of discussion allows for the growth of the associations and for better all around golf events for all of us.
I like what one of the guys said on the yahoo discussion for the SC's and PC's.
This is simply a form of communication.
I like the PDGA,I like the So Nationals.
I like anything that promotes our sport and allows us to all enjoy the events and the fellowship.
After all,The people who play the sport are just as important to me as the sport.Watching new players on new courses gives me just as much satisfaction now as playing anymore.
My getting fired up over these situations has dwindled down quite a bit.I'll voice my opinion as we all should.
But I won't get so bent that I can't enjoy the round of golf.
It's all good :cool:

What are the requirements for setting up a SN tourney? Is there a limit on how many teeth a player is missing before they can enter? ;)

That all depends on which state you're talking about. I believe mississippi and alabama require the most missing teeth with arkansas and louisiana running a close 3rd and 4th. The main requirement is you must be drunk during your round. Sorry, I'm able to harp on the southern nationals because i love their tourneys so much. You wanna see an awesome southern national tournament. Go to Memphis Dogwood Classic in May at Bud Hill. That tournament smokes any PDGA tournament i've ever been to save worlds.

Well I didn't know if you had to live in one of those states to run a SN. So you think if I ran one in OK I wouldn't get a good turnout? :confused:....Is beer drinking allowed during the round? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

I would like to know everyone's complaints about southern national tournaments. Compare pdga tournaments who have the same number of people and you will see that about 95% of the time, so. national tourneys payout way more than pdga tournaments.



Just like Pitch said, only problem I've got with SN is communication, we held SN money for months not getting replies as to where to send it, several of us were interested in a Hot Spring tourney last year, it made it to the SN schedule just a couple of weeks before the tourney with heavy discounts for early registration but by the time it was on the schedule the pre-reg deadline was already past, the extra heavy pre-reg discount also concerned me in fairness, not sure if these numbers are totally correct, its been awhile back, pro $30 pre-reg, $50 day of, seemed to steep, like it'd be kinda unfair with payout.

For that matter why sanction anything unless it's attracting players, making the tourney bigger, better, funner...

SN $2 per head? all goes to payout at the SN championships, pretty cool...PDGA anywhere from $2 to $ 5 per head, goes straight to the big fund where lots of different things are funded from including payouts and lots more, I'm personally more concerened with overall publicity and growth of the sport as a whole than payout (probably because I'm a crappy tourney golfer) but the 2 things can help each other out. The PDGA also spends $20 something just to process memberships with an outside source, that sounds like too much and could be handled eternally but I'm not an expert on that subject, there may be good reasons that my feeble mind isn't grasping.

Another issue is Insurance, PDGA $50 per event, some of our courses absolutely require insurance, I researched getting insurance for our Ice Bowl to be at Ben Geren, $300 was the cheapest that I found, that would of robbed half of our charitable proceeds or could have been a total bust, luckily the City let us do it on one of their courses with a waiver, sanctioning our Ice Bowl would of also taken too much money from our charity.

What does SN bring to the table other than an awesome payout tourney at the end of the year which could attract more players? Any other resources, structures or ammenities?

I'll let everyone know that some in WAFDA are talking about considering double sanctioning in the future, especially if it draws more players and the money goes to something good in DG. Being able to drink or not wear a shirt during tourney play wouldn't be the reason, we want to remain in a professionally conducted atmosphere that anyone could attend. Some areas the being able to drink and play tourneys would probably be alright.

I also believe the double sanctioned scenario should be heavily tracked to insure what extra players that it might be drawing is making it better overall for everyone (both associations)

I also hate politics, who would ever of thought that frisbee golf would bring me to make political decisions

.02 cents

There is no state requirement to hold a southern nationals event. The guys that do the marshall street disc golf championships are putting on a couple of SN tourneys this year. You would probably get a decent turnout. The only stipulation is you have to get it approved by John K or Jim Orum which is not very hard to do.

No it's not hard.
That Marshall Street thing is funny
Fat to the bone
Non sanctioned
OUCH!!!
Hello,PDGA,You missin something ?
WAKE UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is no state requirement to hold a southern nationals event. The guys that do the marshall street disc golf championships are putting on a couple of SN tourneys this year. You would probably get a decent turnout. The only stipulation is you have to get it approved by John K or Jim Orum which is not very hard to do.



I agree, we've done it before, lack of communication turned us off but things aren't perfect in disc golf associations, like before, its hard to truly hold volunteers 100% accountable, they/we have lives and careers that interfere with our hobby sometimes. It will be brought in front of our clubs meetings, we've already somewhat considered it, what's $2 more on top of $20 - $50 anyway and it might improve an already good participation number/payout. Really up to the TD's, I would like to see Hell on the Border (http://www.pdga.com/schedule/event.php?TournID=6773) double sanctioned but I'm only assisting on it, up to the club and TD, we'll see

I know that it seems as though a lot more tourney's are filling this year. There may not be a problem gettin people to play. I expect Northshore to fill this year. Alma Greens, Eddy Bowl, and Hell on the Border might benefit though. There is gonna be an Eddy Bowl this year right?

Tommys call on the Bowl.
We'll see.

I'll be at BG around 5:15ish to play before the meeting, anyone want some lessons - bring cash

http://forum.shutterbug.com/photopost/data/500/2583laughing_horse-med.jpg :D

http://forum.shutterbug.com/photopost/data/500/2583laughing_horse-med.jpg :D



Horse poop might be acceptable payment for okie's giving lessons, cash only accepted here...might take major credit cards for a small convenience fee

besides....

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c214/chaztrouble123/FunnyChicken.jpg

:D

I will be at Alma today, if it is not pouring rain, around 4:30 or so if anyone wants to join in.

A few of us Northwestern Arkansans will be heading down there this Friday to play some casual rounds out at Ben Geren and Alma. Give a shout if you would like to meet up with us! :)

Be patient with Alma unless it gets mowed...going thru alot of changes right now...might visit WAFDA.org's forum and see the post I just put there trying to describe some of the changes and issues.

It will be an awesome course again by Alma Greens if not sooner, just needs work, we're removing old holes and putting new ones in

I might be able to get a round in that evening (Friday) if ya'll are still around :)

I'm sitting #17 on Donkey Tags :cool:

I need to get a lower one :D

I'm sitting #17 on Donkey Tags

Buck,myself and the father-in law were in town friday. Buck had #99 I had #100.you missed out.

So we should'nt play alma.

So we should'nt play alma.



You might want to check out some of the new holes, as of now grass is HIGH!! The wooded part is better, just watch your disc in the high grass

here's my copy/paste on it from WAFDA's forum:

Alma has recently went through a bunch of park construction directly in the path of the course causing a redesign and some removal of some tees and putting in new holes.

A few of us were out there this weekend to work on getting the course truly playable again.

New Tee Signs are being done, we just renumbered the existing ones in an effort to make it navigatable and changed the numbers on the baskets that we could.

This course will be fully manicured before the Alma Greens Tournament on June 30th.

The Mayor of Alma is looking to mow it soon, we are also offering to mow it if he will let us. (their priority right now is getting the water park open but it will be done)

As of yesterday Hole 2, 5, 7 and 9 tee sign was not in place as well as the new holes for #13 & 14 (sleeves are in place for baskets, tee's are staked)

Hole 1 - clearly marked - starts at the new parking lot on top of the park by the lake

Hole 2 - sign missing but tee stakes are still there

Hole 3 - clearly defined

Hole 4 - NEW - defined -The new hole 4 is the old #17's tee (old basket 17 is being moved to a new hole in the woods) shooting to the old 18 pin (now hole #4) - downhill 500ish foot hole, cliff on the right, OB very close to back of pin

NEW tee for #5 is shooting off the cliff to the newly moved basket (no sign or defined tee markers yet..but very soon will be)

Hole 6 - clearly marked

Hole 7 - (on top of hill) sign missing, tee stakes and new mat is there

Hole 8 - clearly marked

hole 9 - sign missing, tee markers are there

hole 10 (starts going into woods) - clearly defined

hole 11 - clearly defined

hole 12 (over the water) - clearly defined

hole 13 - NEW (walk forward and lil left of 12's basket) - temporary stakes are marking tee area, sleeve is in the ground, very short tight fairway, will be cleared a lil more - almost a dogleg but you'll be putting where the turn is)

hole 14 - NEW (as you stand at the end of 13's fairway looking at 13's sleeve, temp tee stakes are a lil past and to the left of 13's sleeve) - tightly wooded, leftie and righty route - fairly short hole

hole 15 (devils fork) - clearly defined

hole 16 - crazy dogleg - take your 3 or throw one hell of a thumber and pray - defined

hole 17 - clearly defined

hole 18 - defined, top of basket ruined by vandals, city of Alma is fixing and will be replaced

Rusted chains are also being replaced (bad run from Innova - they sent new ones), a little bit of clearing some of the wooded fairways from new growth, weed killing and raking is also in the works as well as next tee markers

The entire design intention of the wooded holes is crazy tight fairways (but fairly short - demands accuracy)...Open holes - Long

This will be a very unique course and will play entirely different than any other surrounding courses demanding different shots and strategies.

Any manpower help with all of this is greatly appreciated, I plan on spending some time out there again on Memorial Weekend, early June more people's time will be freed up and more work done.

Good job Evan,Your right it will be done.And when it is it's gonna be the best it's ever been.You wind up at the parking lot half way thru your round.
The pavillion and improvments are gonna be well worth the wait.
Looks like the Greens is gonna be better than ever. :cool:

I, like Evan, would be glad to play a round Friday afternoon. I get out of school at 3:15 so I could be in Alma by 4:15 or so. I don't want you to miss a round at Alma due to the fix-up and lack of maintenance by the city. Only 4 of the holes are majorly affected. The dam shot has really tall grass, the shot up to the parking lot on top has some tall weeds to walk through, hole #13 (new) has still not got a basket, and new hole 18 (double mando oaks) the top of the basket is gone.
The grass is still tall on the other holes, but not as bad as the ones I mentioned, and not to the point that it really affects play.
But of course I am a country boy, who throws his discs in the cow pasture!! (that's why I only buy green discs)

Let me know if anyone would like to meet around 4:15 on Friday at Alma.

No golf for me Friday :mad:I'm stuck at work till probably after 5 Friday and I'll be exhausted once I get off :( looking to do the BG Mini Sat. morning and hitting Alma after that :cool:

Willi I'm not exactly sure what the plans are for Friday. I have to get ahold of Darrell and see what his time frame is like. Willie you can give me a call when you get out of school. Hopefully we can meet up with you for a round. 479-283-3978 /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Well, once again I have to follow in Evan's footprints.......
I have had a change of plans. I got an invite to go to a cabin on the King's river for the weekend, and can't refuse. I will not be available for a round on Friday. I am truly sorry, b/c I was looking forward to hooking up with you guys and getting a round in. I hope you do at least stop by Alma and check out the new layout. The wooded holes are all good to play, and the ones on the bluff aren't horrible. The worst grass problem is on the flat above the park and off of the dam, where old holes 1,2 and 3 are. Other than that, it isn't too bad. And anyway, the wooded holes make for a good afternoon round in the shade!!
Hope ya'll have fun, and I'll catch you later.

Andrew and I had a great time at the mini yesterday.

Thanks to all the Arkansas golfers for making us feel welcome.

I love the North Shore course. You have done a great job with the design..

See you in Tulsa or the next time we make it over...

it's always a TREAT to shot around with you TWO!!!

I don't get it.

Did any NWA guys make it down on Friday?

He just posted under the wrong club.he said Northshore

Yeah, I knew that wa for ya'll. But some of the guys had said they were planning on coming down on Friday and playing the courses down here. I was just curious if they made it down or not?
Bailey's, Buck????

they were their,they had to run to the car during the second round,something about lightening making there hair stand-up.

Yeah we went down Friday and played 2 rounds at Ben Geren. Started pouring on us during the 2nd round on hole #14. Made it to #16 and had a little lighting. Ganzel talked us into finishing the next 2 holes. Then had a huge lighting strike about 100 yards away from us :(. At that point it was a unanimous decision to run for the car. Other than the rain and lighting we had a blast! :D

KABOOM.....

Thats all I remember /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif.

Did anyone play Alma today with Tommy Eddy? I saw him at Hole #1 talking on his cell at around 11:45. I would have stopped but I had a trailer load of Furniture and etc (moving my mother-in-law).
My wife, John and I played Friday afternoon. I came out of it at a +3 and felt OK because I had several bad putts, and one drive that got caught by the tall grass and went just over 30 feet. John threw a T-rex off of the bluff from hole 4 (old 17) that flew somewhere around where old hole #1 was, where the trail comes up from the parking lot at the park. It was quite a bomb, but it was bad b/c we couldn't find the disc!
I saw the mayor out on a Gator looking over the course with someone (Tom???). I hope that that is a good sign for us, and not more bad news. I'm ready to get the
course settled for a while.
Tom let me know if I can spray Round-up out there on all the weeds, bushes, poison ivy, as I would like to kill it out before removing it. I'll probably be able to do that Tuesday or Wednesday.
Everyone keep an eye out, Alma is coming around!!!
.

Alma mini? I was wanting to get some people togather for a small mini, down in Alma in the next week or so. I thought it would be a great chance to get a feel for the new layout before Alma Greens. Just wanted to see what everyone's schedules are like and when might be a good day to do this. I'm thinking sometime during the week would be the best bet. Chris Pleis and a couple of Little Rock guys are already planning on coming down. During the week seems to work best for them. Anyways let me know if you might be interested in joining us. Should be lots of fun. :D

I am actually going to be at Devil's Den through Thursday, b/c my wife has workshops in Lincoln all week. If ya'll happen to come Friday or want to come down for the weekend I would try and get with you. I am sure TreeShark would be willing to step in too. Let me know when you will be around.
If anyone is out towards Devil's Den I'll have some baskets set-up and would be glad for the help watching the kids........ I mean practicing putting!!! :D

Hey Buck, be patient with Alma, it's not lookin as good as it will by the Greens, some tee signs missing (doing new ones), needs mowing and a lil more clearing on the 2 new holes, it'll be beautiful by the 30th though :cool:

I'm stuck at work 8-5 but after that I may be able to play, let me know when

We are all looking at going on 19th. That is a Tuesday. Will probably be up there around 11 or so. Let me know of anything we need to be aware of to play the course. Thanks

By the end of this coming weekend the new tee signs and "next tee" markers will be hopefully be up so it should be easier to navigate (especially for the new holes), hopefully the City will be mowing it or we'll get to do that also, the 2 new wooded holes (13 and 14) will get a lil more clearing before the Greens, other than that its basically good to go!!

Awesome! Will you be able to meet us out there for a round?

Not Sure :confused: Hard to tell what my work load will be like

Well I just talked with Chris and looks like we will be out there around 3ish and will probably play until the sun goes down. So anyone and everyone try to make it out there for a round! :D

Today or next Tuesday (19th)?

Is there a mini at North Shore today??

Did anyone hit the ace pot???

There wasn't a mini today. Everyone was at the Alma Greens Tournament. Should of been there. :D

This thread title is hilarious. :D

You need to get out more Jake.

I was thinking of making a trip down to Ben Geren today to check out the course before HotB. If any locals are gonna be around let me know. I always enjoy golfing with other people more than going solo, especially on a course i've never played.

You can call me at 479-283-3811. I might answer to firechicken_magician or you can just ask for Zach.

That's alot of wasted gas money to have your wife drive to BG just to chew you out! :eek:

I'm getting on the road right now, so if anyone wants to meet us just give me a call on my cell, we'll probably be in the fort by 1 or 1:30.

Hey Colin, by the time your yeast infection clears up, or whatever it is you whine about, my rating is gonna be higher than yours, and you'll still owe me 17 skins.

Hey Colin, by the time your yeast infection clears up, or whatever it is you whine about, my rating is gonna be higher than yours, and you'll still owe me 17 skins.


Yeast infection, nice.
Don't worry Zach. I'll be out there soon enough. I finish my Master's Degree requirements monday and have knee surgery the 14th of August. So I will be cleared play 6 months from that date. So get to practicing!
Oh by the way Zach, if you need me to explain what a Master's Degree is, let me know.

You're a "Master" at what???? :confused:.....Bation? :o

Sorry Scott,
It's getting harder to explain to Arkies and Oklahomos that people are in college that aren't football players or drug dealers.

I understand that Colin but it seems like you've been in college for over 10 years now. :confused:...Does it really take that much education to be a manager at McDonalds or a chicken cage cleaner at Tyson's? When are you going to get out and get a real job? :D

Zing! Man I like these Oklahoma guys.

We had a blast, I brought my buddy Clint who will be playing novice at HotB.

I shot even at Ben Geren, -1 at Tilles, +1 at Alma, and +6 at Northshore night golfing. I'm gonna be golfed out for a while, I am hurtin.

Clint shot +15 at Ben Geren, +1 at Tilles, and +12 or so at Alma. Watch out Rec division.

I really enjoyed Ben Geren, a few guys made it sound like it would be more wide open and alot easier, but it's got alot more trees than i thought and some cool shots. It's so much hotter in fort smith and alma though, you poor bastards. 98% in the fort all day, and around 80% with cool winds in NWA. Needless to say I've got a nice sun burn to show for today.

What time does things kick off sunday at alma ? Is it handicap, singles or doubles ?

Was thinking about getting away this weekend since the girlfriend has other plans that does not involve me :)

NO mini at Alma nobody will step up and run one :(

Mini on SATURDAY, Ben Geren....tee-off 10:30am
we do handicaps (honor system for new players) with attendance possibly rising we could probably do divisions, depends on how many show :cool:

A few people will be at BG around 5 to move some baskets and play golf b4 our scheduling meeting.....

Anyone interested come out and have some fun :)